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Old 05-06-2013, 05:30 PM
 
Location: Greenville, SC
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This is largely because of MSA's and CSA's being county-based. Those 1.4 million people don't all live in Greenville built-up area.
I know that. Atlanta has a metro of 5.5 million people, but only 400,000 of those live in the city. Hoover, Alabama is quite like Greenville, with a MSA population of 1.1 million, only because it is included with Birmingham, but a city population of only 81,000.
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Old 05-06-2013, 08:21 PM
 
Location: Hoover, Alabama
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I know that. Atlanta has a metro of 5.5 million people, but only 400,000 of those live in the city. Hoover, Alabama is quite like Greenville, with a MSA population of 1.1 million, only because it is included with Birmingham, but a city population of only 81,000.
Not really, because Hoover is a large suburb of Birmingham while Greenville is the central city, or at least not a suburb of Spartanburg.
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Old 05-06-2013, 08:58 PM
 
Location: Greenville, SC
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Not really, because Hoover is a large suburb of Birmingham while Greenville is the central city, or at least not a suburb of Spartanburg.
But it is a city, just like Greer, SC is a suburb of Greenville, but it is a city. Also, I don't think Greenville would be a suburb of Spartanburg. Anyways, I think it would be the other way around because Greenville is about two times the size and it is the fastest growing city in SC.
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Old 05-06-2013, 09:04 PM
 
Location: Hoover, Alabama
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But it is a city, just like Greer, SC is a suburb of Greenville, but it is a city. Also, I don't think Greenville would be a suburb of Spartanburg. Anyways, I think it would be the other way around because Greenville is about two times the size and it is the fastest growing city in SC.
I said it isn't a suburb of Spartanburg. But you compared Greenville to Hoover when Hoover is a suburb and Greenville is the main city in the metro. That was my point. Of course Hoover and Greer and every other suburb in America are cities, but they aren't the largest in the metro, main employment centers, activity centers, etc. etc.
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Old 05-06-2013, 09:07 PM
 
Location: Savannah GA
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Look, I realize that you're a journalist with an axe to grind against a town where you simply didn't work out ....
WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?!?!?!

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Old 05-06-2013, 09:09 PM
 
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But it is a city, just like Greer, SC is a suburb of Greenville, but it is a city. Also, I don't think Greenville would be a suburb of Spartanburg. Anyways, I think it would be the other way around because Greenville is about two times the size and it is the fastest growing city in SC.
Both Greenville and Spartanburg are principal cities within the same CSA, kind of like Raleigh and Durham or Dallas and Fort Worth. Neither would be considered a suburb.
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Old 05-06-2013, 09:09 PM
 
Location: Hoover, Alabama
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Greenville has an MSA population of 824k and CSA population of 1.4 million, but its urban area has a population of 400k. My case in point.
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Old 05-06-2013, 10:22 PM
 
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That the way I think of it too. No Major League teams=Not a major city!

To extrapolate - To be a national major city it must have All 4 Major League sport teams. NHL, NBA, MLB, NFL.
That isn't the criteria I use but to each his own.

Houston has no NHL team. Atlanta lost its NHL team. Seattle has no NHL team at this time and lost its NBA team. Austin also is major league team challenged. And San Antonio, yet another orphan in the crowd. Also there is no MLB in North Carolina, poor Charlotte. Would you say none of these are national major cities?

I agree with those that said Birmingham is a major city in the southeast. As far as nationally, many don't realize just how large it has become. There are some cities that get a great deal of press and are considered the "fair haired child" so to speak. Austin, Texas is an example of that. God, do they carry on about that place.
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Old 05-06-2013, 10:32 PM
 
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That isn't the criteria I use but to each his own.

Houston has no NHL team. Atlanta lost its NHL team. Seattle has no NHL team at this time and lost its NBA team. Austin also is major league team challenged. And San Antonio, yet another orphan in the crowd. Also there is no MLB in North Carolina, poor Charlotte. Would you say none of these are national major cities?

I agree with those that said Birmingham is a major city in the southeast. As far as nationally, many don't realize just how large it has become. There are some cities that get a great deal of press and are considered the "fair haired child" so to speak. Austin, Texas is an example of that. God, do they carry on about that place.
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Old 05-06-2013, 11:49 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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Are we really basing a city's "majorness" on whether or not it fields a team in a sport that has trouble keeping a TV contract, let alone even putting an entire season together? If you can't bike cross the entirety of the city, from the hockey arena to the brewpub cluster, past the food trucks and the vibrant shops and coffee places full of necessary but reviled hipsters, then it clearly isn't worth living in.

/sarcasm
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