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Old 08-12-2021, 03:49 PM
 
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How many times were we told "just wait for the new census data"?

Huntsville is now bigger than Birmingham. Hmm, that one stings. A few of us on here called out the sunshine pumpers but we were put on the "do not listen to" list by a member.

This is hugely problematic for Birmingham. In a decade where people flocked into metros, Birmingham sat on the sideline and watched them grow.
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Old 08-12-2021, 04:17 PM
 
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Interesting...

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Montgomery -2.5%
Mobile -4.1%
Gadsden -7.9%
Bessemer -5.2%
Anniston -6.7%
Prichard -14.7%
Selma -13.4%
Center Point -3%

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Alabaster +10%
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Daphne +27%
Homewood +5%
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Old 08-12-2021, 05:18 PM
 
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How many times were we told "just wait for the new census data"?

Huntsville is now bigger than Birmingham. Hmm, that one stings. A few of us on here called out the sunshine pumpers but we were put on the "do not listen to" list by a member.

This is hugely problematic for Birmingham. In a decade where people flocked into metros, Birmingham sat on the sideline and watched them grow.


Birmingham's Metro grew. (54,000) In America, it is all about the metro because the politics that make geo-political boundaries skewed the meaning of a city long ago.

You do know that San Jose is bigger than San Francisco, and has been for quite a while. But do you really want to go to San Jose?
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Old 08-12-2021, 05:31 PM
 
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Disappointing but not entirely surprising. Wondering if KY will offer clues about Birmingham's future. 20 years ago, Lexington surpassed Louisville as their state's largest city. That blow led to Louisville, also in Jefferson County funny enough, to finally consolidate in 2013.
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Old 08-12-2021, 06:05 PM
 
Location: 35203
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Disappointing but not entirely surprising. Wondering if KY will offer clues about Birmingham's future. 20 years ago, Lexington surpassed Louisville as their state's largest city. That blow led to Louisville, also in Jefferson County funny enough, to finally consolidate in 2013.
Don't know what the demographics are in Louisville, but for Birmingham, consolidation won't happen. The mindframe of people is the reason.
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Old 08-13-2021, 03:52 AM
 
Location: Birmingham, U.S.A.
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Disappointing but not entirely surprising. Wondering if KY will offer clues about Birmingham's future. 20 years ago, Lexington surpassed Louisville as their state's largest city. That blow led to Louisville, also in Jefferson County funny enough, to finally consolidate in 2013.
I'm almost certain the state legislation would block that from happening.
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Old 08-13-2021, 05:56 AM
 
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I guess what interests me more is how Birmingham metro actually came in at 1,151,801, 60,000 higher than the 2020 estimate of 1,091,921. That's quite a pop.

To me, that confirms the arc we all suspected about the 2010-2020 decade. Birmingham was brutalized by the banking collapse in the early part of the decade, only to see new life in the last couple of years–the result of foundational changes in the city's infrastructure and economic mix. It will be interesting to me to see what happens over the next ten years.

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Old 08-13-2021, 07:31 AM
 
Location: Birmingham, AL
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^ that number also gets back close to what the metro area was when walker county was included in 2010.
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Old 08-13-2021, 07:33 AM
 
Location: Birmingham, AL
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Disappointing but not entirely surprising. Wondering if KY will offer clues about Birmingham's future. 20 years ago, Lexington surpassed Louisville as their state's largest city. That blow led to Louisville, also in Jefferson County funny enough, to finally consolidate in 2013.
was louisville not surrounded by incorporated municipalities / suburbs? if it was, i'm amazed they all agreed to consolidate. as mentioned above, there's just no way places like mountain brook or homewood would ever go for that. i'd love to read how that worked.
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Old 08-13-2021, 07:56 AM
 
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Birmingham's Metro grew. (54,000) In America, it is all about the metro because the politics that make geo-political boundaries skewed the meaning of a city long ago.

You do know that San Jose is bigger than San Francisco, and has been for quite a while. But do you really want to go to San Jose?

Grew by 54,000? So it grew by less than the average metropolitan area. So it lost ground to other metropolitan areas. And its anchor city was one of the worst performing large cities in the nation. Got it.

Got any other spin you want to put on this data?
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