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Fr.Meslier's the problem of Heaven
Theists love to find excuses for God1 Why, they never can find one legitimate one to overcome the logical and Rowe's evidential arguments from evil!
The greater good and the unknown defense arguments reflect the argument from ignorance! No amount of goodness in the future state can expiate for the evils of this life!
God would have to expiate for his evils, and theists believe that His nature is good so He has no responsibility for any evil and we must have free will for soul-building. No, we do not!
Is putative God not free and is the Supreme Robot, because He can do no wrong as theists so claim? Would we really be robot were we able to choose amongst the good , the better and the best as Burton porter suggests. Would we really be moral robots? In no manner would we be robots despite all the trees to produce paper for the defenses and theodicies purporting to prove His goodness with free will and soul-making!
Ti's no hobgoblin of little minds to require Him and theists to acknowledge the consistency betwixt Heaven on Earth and Heaven itself as the problem of Heaven notes.
We owe God nothing and He has no rights over us as Lamberth's argument from autonomy claims whereas He faces that one-way street- the obligation to have put us into a better situation!
Again, this gnu atheist goes to the heart of theism!Posted 02-12-2013 at 02:50 PM by Carneades-SkepticGriggsy -
Atheists have a personal morality vs. a fear based morality
momentous, how should we ground morality?
Do you favor any particular moral theory?
Mine is realist and utilitarian/consequentialist with additions.
What further thought have you agains divine command morality?
Realism - Home I invite you to make comments there before even I do!Posted 12-17-2012 at 04:58 PM by Carneades-SkepticGriggsy -
Why God cannot exist!
Do you really need the supposed Deity to give you purpose and love? Do you really want a relationship with Him? Do you really need Him for inspiration to get your inner resources going? Do you and others need Him for being moral?
Do you need Him for an over-arching explanation as to why things are as they are? Why would you need Him to explain why evolution and other processes work when natural selection and other evolutionary process explain matters anyway and so forth?
Are we naturalists just to naive or smug to think that godless nations would flourish?
Why do you believe in the supposed Deity?Posted 12-17-2012 at 04:52 PM by Carneades-SkepticGriggsy