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Still Not a fan. I haven't seen a half way decent car from BMW since the Z8 Roadster was discontinued. They need to fire their designers and while they're at it revamp their entire quality control system. BMW reliability is some of the worst to come from any major car manufacturer in the last 10 yrs. Who do they thin they are GM?
Still Not a fan. I haven't seen a half way decent car from BMW since the Z8 Roadster was discontinued. They need to fire their designers and while they're at it revamp their entire quality control system. BMW reliability is some of the worst to come from any major car manufacturer in the last 10 yrs. Who do they thin they are GM?
People keep bringing that up, and I always wonder what it's based off off, considering that certain BMW models have been amongst the absolute most reliable on the European market the last 5-7 years.
What is it that's such poor quality on the US models?
People keep bringing that up, and I always wonder what it's based off off, considering that certain BMW models have been amongst the absolute most reliable on the European market the last 5-7 years.
What is it that's such poor quality on the US models?
Mostly electronics and sensors. We see tons of wheel speed sensors, crank sensors and Tire pressure sensors go bad. A few main computer failures and it seems like every model with the self leveling headlights also fail but lately we're seeing accessories fail. Things like blower motors, wiper motors, alternators, starters, water pumps and a whole pile of faulty interior parts like the Nav systems, radios, window and door switches, anti theft systems etc. The 5 series cars also have a tendency to develop shorts in the wiring that drain batteries and cause all kinds of headaches. We've seen cars with remote start fail and start the car all by itself then refuse to start when the key is inserted. I can go on and on but I'm tired of typing. All these things seem to be a pretty major problems on cars from about 2000 to 2006/2007. We don't see too many newer than that as they are still under warranty and BMW's headache.
We had a Convertible model in a few months back that the top wouldn't go down on. After two days and countless hours on the phone with BMW we gave up. The guy took the car to BMW who had it for over a month and finally put and entire main body wiring harness in it at the cost of a couple of thousand dollars. Car was a 2006 if I remember correctly. Not exactly how I want to spend my money..
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Still Not a fan. I haven't seen a half way decent car from BMW since the Z8 Roadster was discontinued. They need to fire their designers and while they're at it revamp their entire quality control system. BMW reliability is some of the worst to come from any major car manufacturer in the last 10 yrs. Who do they thin they are GM?
Did you know they're no longer bringing the wagon to the U.S? They killed the 5-series wagon last year or the year before, I believe. Do you know how hard it is to find a decent sports wagon with a manual transmission? What's wrong with Americans? We don't find the virtue or beauty in sports wagons because they're "station wagons" while wagon turds like the Chevy HHR and the PT Cruiser sell like hot cakes. What kind of country is this we're living in?! For the love of God, forget your SUV - wagons can haul stuff, too, and also be fun to drive!
Did you know they're no longer bringing the wagon to the U.S? They killed the 5-series wagon last year or the year before, I believe. Do you know how hard it is to find a decent sports wagon with a manual transmission? What's wrong with Americans? We don't find the virtue or beauty in sports wagons because they're "station wagons" while wagon turds like the Chevy HHR and the PT Cruiser sell like hot cakes. What kind of country is this we're living in?! For the love of God, forget your SUV - wagons can haul stuff, too, and also be fun to drive!
Seems like the US is the only country out there that doesn't like driving dynamics or practicality.
Seems like the US is the only country out there that doesn't like driving dynamics or practicality.
Wagons don't sell, every single wagon introduced in the United States recently has been an abysmal failure. It's such a niche product that it isn't profitable to produce for the US market.
I HATE wagons; they're ugly, mediocre, and just overall disappointing vehicles. Most people in this country who haul things either have a truck or SUV, nobody uses wagons.
I remember commercials about the Dodge Magnum with a guy demonstrating that a full-size latter will fit into the vehicle. How many people really haul around latters anyway?? Any contractor/painter/construction worker will have a work truck, not a station wagon.
Europe can have those damn things, I hate seeing them!
Wagons don't sell, every single wagon introduced in the United States recently has been an abysmal failure. It's such a niche product that it isn't profitable to produce for the US market.
I HATE wagons; they're ugly, mediocre, and just overall disappointing vehicles. Most people in this country who haul things either have a truck or SUV, nobody uses wagons.
I remember commercials about the Dodge Magnum with a guy demonstrating that a full-size latter will fit into the vehicle. How many people really haul around latters anyway?? Any contractor/painter/construction worker will have a work truck, not a station wagon.
Europe can have those damn things, I hate seeing them!
I have no idea what you're talking about.
They're far better looking than both SUV's and trucks, in my opinion.
I don't know what you think is mediocre about them and they're certainly not disappointing, you get SUV hauling capabilities and regular car handling, for those of us who like nice handling in a car but also need to haul crap around on occasion, it's perfect, and the BMW wagons are most certainly not slouches nor disappointing in any aspect, least of all the 5 series (or M5 wagon).
Crossovers are the new wagons. The CTS wagon looks pretty nice.
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