Is Boston really part of the Northeast Corridor? (Norfolk, Halifax: real estate, rentals)

[btownboss4]

Originally Posted by raider21

nah, weak argument against. Boston for sure is part of the NE corridor. I remember in the 60's they were predicting, because of over population that Boston to Washington would meld into one big city, called "Bos-Wash"

Go to a Bruins game in Buffalo and go to a Bruins game in Washington that will tell you all you have to know about how connected Boston is to D.C. In terms of travelers.

[jayrandom]

Originally Posted by btownboss4

Go to a Bruins game in Buffalo and go to a Bruins game in Washington that will tell you all you have to know about how connected Boston is to D.C. In terms of travelers.

That's an expensive test and I'm not even sure what the outcome would be. The capitals regularly win the Presidents Trophy and the Sabres have been awful for a few years. If you did the same with Red Sox games, you'd think that Boston was well connected to Orange County.

[G1..]

Originally Posted by btownboss4

That was for a day trip, people vacation down the Cape but people also vacation in Florida. You are not going to drive from Orange, NJ to spend a day or even a weekend on Cape Cod. It would have to be about a 5 day vacation.
Also I have never heard of anyone outside the Tri-state ever going to the Jersey Shore.

LOL, you're wrong. This thread is nuts.

[Shrewsburried]

Why is everyone using vacationing spots a metric for defining the 'northeast corridor'? It's become conflated with the 'Northeast Megalopolis', which represents 17% of the U.S. population within 2% of it's land mass. It has everything to do with interconnected markets, supply chains, talent transfer ... things economic and related to sheer density.

Most of my employers biotech talent is poached has been poached from the D.C./Baltimore and NYC/Jersey/CT markets. Few come from the western job markets or upper mid-west.

[scorpio516]

Originally Posted by Shrewsburried

Why is everyone using vacationing spots a metric for defining the 'northeast corridor'? It's become conflated with the 'Northeast Megalopolis', which represents 17% of the U.S. population within 2% of it's land mass. It has everything to do with interconnected markets, supply chains, talent transfer ... things economic and related to sheer density.

+1

I got into a discussion about metro areas in a different state's board. One person's definition was that a metro area is connected if there isn't 40 miles of rural area between urban/suburban areas.
I'm pretty sure you can drive from Boston to DC without going 40 miles of rural area - but I've never driven south out of Rhode Island on 95. From Springfield to Delaware, there's barely any rural area, let alone 40 continuous miles of it.

The Northeast is the definition of megalopolis. The term came from a 1961 study of the area.

Look at this map, there are two places you could make an argument, but where is the breaking point?

[MassVt]

Originally Posted by scorpio516

+1

I got into a discussion about metro areas in a different state's board. One person's definition was that a metro area is connected if there isn't 40 miles of rural area between urban/suburban areas.
I'm pretty sure you can drive from Boston to DC without going 40 miles of rural area - but I've never driven south out of Rhode Island on 95. From Springfield to Delaware, there's barely any rural area, let alone 40 continuous miles of it.

The Northeast is the definition of megalopolis. The term came from a 1961 study of the area.

Look at this map, there are two places you could make an argument, but where is the breaking point?

One breaking pint would be between Providence and New Haven, and I guess the 2nd would be between Wilmington, DE and Baltimore, but the latter isn't much at all..

[Shrewsburried]

Originally Posted by MassVt

One breaking pint would be between Providence and New Haven, and I guess the 2nd would be between Wilmington, DE and Baltimore, but the latter isn't much at all..

I think the the Prov/CT gap is bridged by the fact Providence, Worcester, CT, and Boston are well connected. By using Worcester as a conduit, you're now ~60 minutes from the Hartford and Springfield metros. 3.5-4.5 hours from NYC and Phila.

A fair amount of rail traffic still travels through Worcester connecting cities like Hartford, Providence, New Haven, Plainfield, Gardner, etc. enroute to Boston and greater New England or NYC/Phila. Just look at the tonnage maps for rail traffic:

[scorpio516]

Originally Posted by MassVt

One breaking pint would be between Providence and New Haven, and I guess the 2nd would be between Wilmington, DE and Baltimore, but the latter isn't much at all..

Those are the two I was thinking - but Providence to ~Mohegan is fairly built up and I haven't driven between Wilmington and Baltimore. When ever I head down there, I cross the Chesapeake at Annapolis And there is NOTHING except chickens in DelMarVa peninsula!

[btownboss4]

Originally Posted by Shrewsburried

I think the the Prov/CT gap is bridged by the fact Providence, Worcester, CT, and Boston are well connected. By using Worcester as a conduit, you're now ~60 minutes from the Hartford and Springfield metros. 3.5-4.5 hours from NYC and Phila.

A fair amount of rail traffic still travels through Worcester connecting cities like Hartford, Providence, New Haven, Plainfield, Gardner, etc. enroute to Boston and greater New England or NYC/Phila. Just look at the tonnage maps for rail traffic:

Still looks to be ~2x the traffic between NYC and D.C. than between NY and Boston.

[BOORGONG]

Originally Posted by MassVt

One breaking pint would be between Providence and New Haven, and I guess the 2nd would be between Wilmington, DE and Baltimore, but the latter isn't much at all..

Please don't mention breaking pints in your next post. My heart sunk when I read this.