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[BostonBornMassMade]

Boston and Springfield's police are lifting restrictions on gun licenses due to a supreme court's change of law.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2022/07/...ourt-decision/

Basically, anyone can conceal carry in Boston now, they've said in essence any restriction is not enforceable. Police chiefs can also no longer make people prove good cause for a concealed carry license. But they can still enforce "suitability". But even that under threat.

"The Boston Police Department says it has moved to lift restrictions on hundreds of existing gun licenses, with potentially thousands more to come in the city and elsewhere, as police departments pivot in the face of a Supreme Court ruling that is quickly reshaping Massachusetts gun law."

Some police say that even if the limits on someone’s license have yet to be formally lifted, they may be unable to enforce the restrictions anyway.

"Boston police have long said that applicants “must show good reason” for wanting a firearm when applying for a license, using a part of state law that suburban chiefs say they largely didn’t consider when issuing permits.

In 2021 alone, roughly two-thirds of the nearly 2,900 licenses Boston issued — or 1,945 in total — came with restrictions, according to data provided by Boston police."

And in Brookline, Sergeant Chris Malinn said he’s received 10 requests to have restrictions removed but said more are likely. He estimated that of the 700 to 800 active licenses in the town, “half or more” have restrictions.

That said, existing limits on licenses to carry have become unenforceable, he said, citing the state guidance.

“In other words, if somebody got a license that has target and hunting restrictions, but they’re somewhere other than that [carrying a concealed gun] — if they’re out to dinner — that’s no longer a violation of the terms of their license,” Malinn said. “It’s de facto unrestricted, even if it doesn’t say it.”

[JacksonPanther]

Good. Stopping the law abiding citizen from carrying does nothing to reduce crime. It just makes us unable to defend ourselves when needed.

[Boston Shudra]

Originally Posted by JacksonPanther

Good. Stopping the law abiding citizen from carrying does nothing to reduce crime. It just makes us unable to defend ourselves when needed.

Well sure, but being able to stop law unabiding citizens from carrying was definitely nice while it lasted.

[AtkinsonDan]

Originally Posted by JacksonPanther

Good. Stopping the law abiding citizen from carrying does nothing to reduce crime. It just makes us unable to defend ourselves when needed.

Originally Posted by Boston Shudra

Well sure, but being able to stop law unabiding citizens from carrying was definitely nice while it lasted.

Sounds like Massachusetts is not going to follow in the footsteps of New York state. Smart move because New York is going to waste significant time, money and effort going against the findings of the Supreme Court.

[Boston Shudra]

Wonder how long it will be until the Boston area has its first school, grocery, church, or theater shooting.

[AtkinsonDan]

Originally Posted by Boston Shudra

Wonder how long it will be until the Boston area has its first school, grocery, church, or theater shooting.

All those things can and have already happened in other places where gun control laws were in place.

[massnative71]

Originally Posted by Boston Shudra

Well sure, but being able to stop law unabiding citizens from carrying was definitely nice while it lasted.

Yeah the law sure does stop law unabiding citizens from carrying.

[massnative71]

Originally Posted by BostonBornMassMade

Boston and Springfield's police are lifting restrictions on gun licenses due to a supreme court's change of law.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2022/07/...ourt-decision/

Basically, anyone can conceal carry in Boston now, they've said in essence any restriction is not enforceable. Police chiefs can also no longer make people prove good cause for a concealed carry license. But they can still enforce "suitability". But even that under threat.

"The Boston Police Department says it has moved to lift restrictions on hundreds of existing gun licenses, with potentially thousands more to come in the city and elsewhere, as police departments pivot in the face of a Supreme Court ruling that is quickly reshaping Massachusetts gun law."

Some police say that even if the limits on someone’s license have yet to be formally lifted, they may be unable to enforce the restrictions anyway.

"Boston police have long said that applicants “must show good reason” for wanting a firearm when applying for a license, using a part of state law that suburban chiefs say they largely didn’t consider when issuing permits.

In 2021 alone, roughly two-thirds of the nearly 2,900 licenses Boston issued — or 1,945 in total — came with restrictions, according to data provided by Boston police."

And in Brookline, Sergeant Chris Malinn said he’s received 10 requests to have restrictions removed but said more are likely. He estimated that of the 700 to 800 active licenses in the town, “half or more” have restrictions.

That said, existing limits on licenses to carry have become unenforceable, he said, citing the state guidance.

“In other words, if somebody got a license that has target and hunting restrictions, but they’re somewhere other than that [carrying a concealed gun] — if they’re out to dinner — that’s no longer a violation of the terms of their license,” Malinn said. “It’s de facto unrestricted, even if it doesn’t say it.”

They are going to have no choice but actually start enforcing the damn laws that have already been in existence.

[WestieWhitie]

Originally Posted by Boston Shudra

Wonder how long it will be until the Boston area has its first school, grocery, church, or theater shooting.

What's really ironic we have a lot more frothy-mouthed lefties than righties in MA so if there is a mass shooting that's not a typical gangbanger bang-bang party chances are it will be a deranged leftie shooting up some random church.

[Boston Shudra]

Originally Posted by WestieWhitie

What's really ironic we have a lot more frothy-mouthed lefties than righties in MA so if there is a mass shooting that's not a typical gangbanger bang-bang party chances are it will be a deranged leftie shooting up some random church.

Guess we’ll have to wait and see. You’re right, though, that now the crazies can hide their guns regardless of what their beliefs are.