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Old 06-30-2021, 11:00 AM
 
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Men from a young age are taught to “be tough” and not show emotion or distress. When something is bothering many men, they bottle it up.

As we all know, keeping something inside causes it to fester and grow, and unfortunately rear it’s head eventually in an ugly way.

Women seem to be better at talking and sharing feelings when they need help. Men are implied to be the “rock” of the family and know how to handle everything.
It's a core tenet of toxic masculinity which much of the far right poo poo and try to re label as a "war on men".
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Old 06-30-2021, 11:26 AM
 
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It's a core tenet of toxic masculinity which much of the far right poo poo and try to re label as a "war on men".
:: based Jordan Peterson ramblings ::
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Old 06-30-2021, 03:43 PM
 
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It's a core tenet of toxic masculinity which much of the far right poo poo and try to re label as a "war on men".
The only thing political about so-called "toxic masculinity" is that it's a fabrication of the far (very far) left with no the purpose but to divide people culturally and politically, not identify or solve any real problems.
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Old 06-30-2021, 03:47 PM
 
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Men from a young age are taught to “be tough” and not show emotion or distress. When something is bothering many men, they bottle it up.

As we all know, keeping something inside causes it to fester and grow, and unfortunately rear it’s head eventually in an ugly way.

Women seem to be better at talking and sharing feelings when they need help. Men are implied to be the “rock” of the family and know how to handle everything.
Absolutely. And this has been perpetrated by both sexes.
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Old 06-30-2021, 03:50 PM
 
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The only thing political about so-called "toxic masculinity" is that it's a fabrication of the far (very far) left with no the purpose but to divide people culturally and politically, not identify or solve any real problems.
It's a "fabrication", and yet an example of it in society was justly presented, an example that often has horrible impacts on individuals and communities. Why do right wingers believe fake news, and reject the reality right in front of them? It's bizarre.

Us men should be the biggest opponent of toxic masculinity. It's horrible for us. And horrible for society.
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Old 06-30-2021, 03:52 PM
 
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Absolutely. And this has been perpetrated by both sexes.
You just said it was a fabrication!
Good grief. Maybe you don't know what it means or what it is.
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Old 06-30-2021, 03:56 PM
 
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It's a "fabrication", and yet an example of it in society was justly presented, an example that often has horrible impacts on individuals and communities. Why do right wingers believe fake news, and reject the reality right in front of them? It's bizarre.

Us men should be the biggest opponent of toxic masculinity. It's horrible for us. And horrible for society.
As someone who isn't a "right winger" I can't answer your loaded question. What I see is an example of probable mental illness, something which is clearly defined in the DSM-5 and which affects all people, not an example of "toxic masculinity" which only exists in the imagination of those seeking to use their politics to divide people. Everything you believe is 100 percent fact, and the rest is fake news. That may be more your problem, than others.
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Old 06-30-2021, 03:59 PM
 
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As someone who isn't a "right winger" I can't answer your loaded question. I see an example of a mental illness, something which is clearly defined in the DSM-5, not an example of "toxic masculinity." The term fake news was first passed around by Hillary, so it's the first I've heard she's a "right winger" but certainly not the first example of hypocrisy I've seen from you.
Yeah, you are lost. You aren't even speaking about what we are speaking about. You rejected that toxic masculinity is real And the next post you agreed a foundational tenet of it is real!!! If you never heard HRC called conservative or right wing, you don't listen to much.

But you contradicted yourself in subsequent posts, that's clear, so you're just trying to score your standard far right (excuse me, "libertarian") points. Enjoy.
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Old 06-30-2021, 04:08 PM
 
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Yeah, you are lost. You aren't even speaking about what we are speaking about. You rejected that toxic masculinity is real And the next post you agreed a foundational tenet of it is real!!! If you never heard HRC called conservative or right wing, you don't listen to much.

But you contradicted yourself in subsequent posts, that's clear, so you're just trying to score your standard far right (excuse me, "libertarian") points. Enjoy.
There is no contradiction. Hillary is the fake news queen, although I edited that out because it's not material.

"Us men should be the biggest opponent of toxic masculinity. It's horrible for us. And horrible for society."

Yeah OK..... if you really gave a fig about any of it you wouldn't be here implying that mental illnesses, rather than being a public health issue, is a moral issue that only impact males whom you believe are inferior to you.
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Old 06-30-2021, 04:49 PM
 
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The label made be made up, as any label is, but socially regressive male behavior is recognized by the American Psychological Association and one can see behavior health groups regularly consider these behaviors in their treatment modalities when addressing issues of mental health and substance abuse.

Anyway, we see BGJ yet again ‘dunking’ on those he perceives as ‘left’ ... and is apparently willing abandon all his claimed principles when doing so. Lmao indeed.
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