More Than 6 Million Californians – Over One-Third of Them Children – Lived in Poverty in 2010 (Chico: crime, standard of living)

[Curmudgeon]

Originally Posted by .highnlite

What you posted was opinion, you have not provided data.

As you are wont to say, "Do your own research." Goose and gander come immediately to mind!

[.highnlite]

Originally Posted by Curmudgeon

Given what's happening to our culture, I don't think there's anything dumber or more destructive than the champions, apologists and supporters of illegal immigration regardless of from whence it hails.

Just one true American's opinion!

Those darned Republican farmers and businessmen have just ruined America haven't they?

[Curmudgeon]

Originally Posted by .highnlite

Those darned Republican farmers and businessmen have just ruined America haven't they?

Ya really need ta learn a new tune. This one's over-used and redundant.

But in response, they've had a lot of help from the "progressives." Still do!

[nullgeo]

Originally Posted by Curmudgeon

Given what's happening to our culture, I don't think there's anything dumber or more destructive than the champions, apologists and supporters of illegal immigration regardless of from whence it hails.

Just one true American's opinion!

I have never supported illegal immigration. Neither am I an apologist. I am a realist. My statements regarding the relative value of illegals are just that: made to point out the hypocrisy and stupidity of blaming illegals for what ails you.

Reality is that: America's challenges lie squarely on the shoulders of its citizens -- folks who have an inflated view of their self-worth, and live in a fantasy of "rights" based on nothing more than birth. Most 'birthright' American citizens are a bunch of whiners who expect too much of the life that has been handed to them. Few in the generations alive today have any claim to building or defending this nation. Most are simply slurping the cream off the top. Y'all remind me of a bunch of lily-whites on a high school cheer-leading squad, whose daddies buy them whatever they want: fashionable clothes, toys, jewelry, new cars, big homes with 3, 4, 5 x the space anyone needs to live comfortably.

Meanwhile, crimes of incredible damage and proportion are committed in an ongoing pageant of greed and perversion to the legacy of our forefathers -- nearly all committed by 'birthright' citizens whose exploitations, in many cases, are revered as examples of American free-enterprise at work, to be admired and aspired to.

Look to yourselves first. You all want and expect too much. And you blame others for the misfortune that follows your unsupportable greed and insatiable desires.

[Vascodagama]

Originally Posted by .highnlite

I hear people say this, but, what are the regulations, who qualifies and why, don't just tell me this, please provide some facts.

I find it curious that people use the word free, regarding education, education is no more free to the children of illegals than it is to anyone else.

What you posted was opinion, you have not provided data.

You act like you don't already know the answers but yet we all know you do You think tax payers are idiots and can't see what's going on with illegal immigrants, the free handouts, the sanctuary cities, the lack of enforcing the laws. Just spend 2 minutes Googling and you can find ton's of information including information for the illegal aliens on how to receive the free handouts.

There should be no dispute that illegal aliens flood the Hospital Emergency rooms ... correct?

Welfare Use by Immigrant Households with Children

IRS: Welfare Agency for Illegal Aliens

Immigration and Welfare (http://www.fairus.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=16985&security=1601&news _iv_ctrl=1017 - broken link)

[.highnlite]

No, I do not know the answers and I don't think you do either and you don't want to know, or go to the bother of finding out just what it takes to get welfare.

For instance, if you are worth more than $2,000 dollars you cannot get welfare. That means that if you have a functioning automobile it is probably worth more than $2,000 and you are ineligible for welfare.

[mountainrose]

When writing or speaking of the quickly rising poverty problem, neither politicians nor the media ever bring up POPULATION CONTROL. I guess because it is not politically correct to notice that the poorest, least educated, least employed, least skilled, and least parentally responsible are having the most babies and being rewarded and incentivized to perpetuate the vicious cycle of increasing uneducated, unskilled poverty populations on an already over-populated planet.

[Vascodagama]

Originally Posted by .highnlite

No, I do not know the answers and I don't think you do either and you don't want to know, or go to the bother of finding out just what it takes to get welfare.

For instance, if you are worth more than $2,000 dollars you cannot get welfare. That means that if you have a functioning automobile it is probably worth more than $2,000 and you are ineligible for welfare.

Did you read the links I provided?

[Curmudgeon]

Originally Posted by nullgeo

I have never supported illegal immigration. Neither am I an apologist. I am a realist. My statements regarding the relative value of illegals are just that: made to point out the hypocrisy and stupidity of blaming illegals for what ails you.

Reality is that: America's challenges lie squarely on the shoulders of its citizens -- folks who have an inflated view of their self-worth, and live in a fantasy of "rights" based on nothing more than birth. Most 'birthright' American citizens are a bunch of whiners who expect too much of the life that has been handed to them. Few in the generations alive today have any claim to building or defending this nation. Most are simply slurping the cream off the top. Y'all remind me of a bunch of lily-whites on a high school cheer-leading squad, whose daddies buy them whatever they want: fashionable clothes, toys, jewelry, new cars, big homes with 3, 4, 5 x the space anyone needs to live comfortably.

Meanwhile, crimes of incredible damage and proportion are committed in an ongoing pageant of greed and perversion to the legacy of our forefathers -- nearly all committed by 'birthright' citizens whose exploitations, in many cases, are revered as examples of American free-enterprise at work, to be admired and aspired to.

Look to yourselves first. You all want and expect too much. And you blame others for the misfortune that follows your unsupportable greed and insatiable desires.

Here's a real challenge for ya. Let's have a moratorium on illegals for a year or two and see if the country, in true, American, innotiive style, survives it.

I bet it will as it's done throught its history. What say you?

[.highnlite]

Originally Posted by mountainrose

When writing or speaking of the quickly rising poverty problem, neither politicians nor the media ever bring up POPULATION CONTROL. I guess because it is not politically correct to notice that the poorest, least educated, least employed, least skilled, and least parentally responsible are having the most babies and being rewarded and incentivized to perpetuate the vicious cycle of increasing uneducated, unskilled poverty populations on an already over-populated planet.

Who chooses who gets to reproduce, the Government?
Would I be off base in guessing that you advocate smaller government as a rule?

A moritorium? you mean asking the Mexicans to stop coming here for a year?

As a rule I like dealing with reality, odd as it may seem.

One of the problems the anti illegals have, is that they assume that anyone who sees that the illegals are here, they contribute to the economy, and they are not going to go away, is pro illegal.

A corollary would be someone who knows that abortions happen, and that they won't stop happening, must be pro abortion.

It is a false conclusion.