CA is about to become the toughest state on guns (sales, to live in)

[shooting4life]

Originally Posted by bigdumbgod

Not sure the Wild West can be said to present a model for optimal public safety.

Crime was actually lower in the "Wild West" than today. Hint: not everything you see in a movie is true.

Dispelling the myth of 'The Wild West' - Minneapolis gun rights | Examiner.com

[Mack Knife]

Originally Posted by bigdumbgod

Yes, the NRA motto arises. But about how polite are people who shoot people? Not very.

Just wondering, would you happen to know what percentage of gun owners shoot other people? I believe the percentage is actually extremely low but perhaps you have better information?

It seems though, you are an advocate for creating and enforcing laws that apply to a very small percentage of people who engage in a specific activity. Following that general idea, I bet one could examine your activities and find that a greater percentage of people engage in similar activities than the percentage of gun owners who shoot other people. Should there be laws created to restrict or prohibit such activities? You might claim that none of those activities harm or kill other people. I disagree. Can you honestly say that nothing you do contributes to the harm of others even indirectly? Do you use any mode of transportation other than walking or other form of pure human effort? Do you buy any products manufactured in a less developed country? Those activities cause others harm don't they?

What about polite people who shoot people? Isn't it already against the law to harm another person, regardless of the reason? Would you say that someone who shoots another is violating the law? Do you see the incentive for another law preventing such a person from shooting another? If so, perhaps you can explain that concept.

[UB50]

Originally Posted by shooting4life

Crime was actually lower in the "Wild West" than today. Hint: not everything you see in a movie is true.

Dispelling the myth of 'The Wild West' - Minneapolis gun rights | Examiner.com

Crime was actually higher. I hate hearing the gun fanatics repeat this over and over again because IT'S TOTALLY UNTRUE!!!

How Homicidal Was the Old West?-- | The Volokh ConspiracyThe Volokh Conspiracy

This is one of the gunnies OWN SOURCES telling you that you are incorrect.

[bigdumbgod]

Originally Posted by Mack Knife

Isn't it already against the law to harm another person, regardless of the reason?

So you're throwing out the self-defense, personal protection excuse for building an arsenal?
Wow, that even undercuts the George Zimmerman defenders. Surprising!

Speaking of gun-lover heroes, shall we applaud this kind of guy having this sort of cache?
Here Are All the Weapons Police Found in George Zimmerman’s Florida Residence | Mediaite

The public has a right to not have to tread their neighborhoods in mortal fear of the nutter on the block sitting precariously and nervously on a stockpile of combat weapons he obtained easily and legally, ready to unleash pent-up rage over nothing, if not somebody that happens to be strolling down the block when nutter decides he is the law, because he's got the gun and the "right" to decide who's going to die today.

Problem being: Too many gun-nuts are nutters that shouldn't have guns. There's a new example of this every friggin' day.

[Bulldogdad]

Originally Posted by bigdumbgod

So you're throwing out the self-defense, personal protection excuse for building an arsenal?
Wow, that even undercuts the George Zimmerman defenders. Surprising!

Speaking of gun-lover heroes, shall we applaud this kind of guy having this sort of cache?
Here Are All the Weapons Police Found in George Zimmerman’s Florida Residence | Mediaite

The public has a right to not have to tread their neighborhoods in mortal fear of the nutter on the block sitting precariously and nervously on a stockpile of combat weapons he obtained easily and legally, ready to unleash pent-up rage over nothing, if not somebody that happens to be strolling down the block when nutter decides he is the law, because he's got the gun and the "right" to decide who's going to die today.

Problem being: Too many gun-nuts are nutters that shouldn't have guns. There's a new example of this every friggin' day.

That's an arsenal or cache to be worried about?

[shooting4life]

Originally Posted by bigdumbgod

So you're throwing out the self-defense, personal protection excuse for building an arsenal?
Wow, that even undercuts the George Zimmerman defenders. Surprising!

Speaking of gun-lover heroes, shall we applaud this kind of guy having this sort of cache?
Here Are All the Weapons Police Found in George Zimmerman’s Florida Residence | Mediaite

The public has a right to not have to tread their neighborhoods in mortal fear of the nutter on the block sitting precariously and nervously on a stockpile of combat weapons he obtained easily and legally, ready to unleash pent-up rage over nothing, if not somebody that happens to be strolling down the block when nutter decides he is the law, because he's got the gun and the "right" to decide who's going to die today.

Problem being: Too many gun-nuts are nutters that shouldn't have guns. There's a new example of this every friggin' day.

I'm more worried about you and your car than a gun owner.

What is a combat weapon exactly anyways?
How many guns are in an arsenal?

You will probably be surprised that someone with a concealed weapons permit is actually almost 7 times less likely to commit a violent crime than the average person
Texas Concealed Handgun Carriers:Law-abiding Public Benefactors | NCPA

[Mack Knife]

Originally Posted by bigdumbgod

So you're throwing out the self-defense, personal protection excuse for building an arsenal?
Wow, that even undercuts the George Zimmerman defenders. Surprising!

Speaking of gun-lover heroes, shall we applaud this kind of guy having this sort of cache?
Here Are All the Weapons Police Found in George Zimmerman’s Florida Residence | Mediaite

The public has a right to not have to tread their neighborhoods in mortal fear of the nutter on the block sitting precariously and nervously on a stockpile of combat weapons he obtained easily and legally, ready to unleash pent-up rage over nothing, if not somebody that happens to be strolling down the block when nutter decides he is the law, because he's got the gun and the "right" to decide who's going to die today.

Problem being: Too many gun-nuts are nutters that shouldn't have guns. There's a new example of this every friggin' day.

Real problem is too many nuts, perfect examples right here.

Speaking of pent up rage.

[bigdumbgod]

Originally Posted by Mack Knife

Real problem is too many nuts, perfect examples right here.

Speaking of pent up rage.

Yeah, and they're armed, and ready to shoot. Scary place.

[Mack Knife]

Originally Posted by bigdumbgod

So you're throwing out the self-defense, personal protection excuse for building an arsenal?
Wow, that even undercuts the George Zimmerman defenders. Surprising!

Speaking of gun-lover heroes, shall we applaud this kind of guy having this sort of cache?
Here Are All the Weapons Police Found in George Zimmerman’s Florida Residence | Mediaite

The public has a right to not have to tread their neighborhoods in mortal fear of the nutter on the block sitting precariously and nervously on a stockpile of combat weapons he obtained easily and legally, ready to unleash pent-up rage over nothing, if not somebody that happens to be strolling down the block when nutter decides he is the law, because he's got the gun and the "right" to decide who's going to die today.

Problem being: Too many gun-nuts are nutters that shouldn't have guns. There's a new example of this every friggin' day.

Wow, you support the idea self defense?

I wonder, what is your recommendation as a defense against a person armed with a knife? That seems to happen in California quite often. Another knife? Call the police? Uh huh.

Building an arsenal. Some horde guns, some horde stupidity. Stupidity is always more dangerous.

[dexter14]

Originally Posted by bigdumbgod

The public has a right to not have to tread their neighborhoods in mortal fear of the nutter on the block sitting precariously and nervously on a stockpile of combat weapons he obtained easily and legally, ready to unleash pent-up rage over nothing, if not somebody that happens to be strolling down the block when nutter decides he is the law, because he's got the gun and the "right" to decide who's going to die today.

So legal gun owners are the problem? You really have no clue what you are talking about do you bigDUMBgod? Do you know how many shootings each year are done by a law abiding gun owner with their own gun? I'll give you a hint, its WELL under 5%. All of the rest are done by criminals who obtained a gun illegally. Do some research, you make yourself look more foolish with each post.