California should be divided? (San Diego, Santa Ana: school, income, taxes)

[BlackShoe]

Originally Posted by ccm123

Yes, fundamentally and culturally, the state is really two different places: Northern California and Southern California. Question is: where do we draw the line?

Originally Posted by BayAreaHillbilly

It's not a north south divide. It is east west (or more properly, coastal and inland).

North South divide? East West? Coastal Inland? Two states? We are so big and so different that we could be split into as many as eight or ten states. Going back many years, there have been some very creative maps produced, that based on economic, cultural, and political criteria, present proposals as to how the state might be divided.

[NoMoreSnowForMe]

Originally Posted by LuvSouthOC

No, we need the water as reparations for job loses here.

LOL! We don't need you.....but we deserve your water! You'll probably want some of that money in Silicon Valley, too....wonder how you'll spin that?

Originally Posted by LuvSouthOC

Psst. We had magnificent schools here but decades of illegal immigration was highly impactful on them. I realize the state is not responsible for enforcement of immigration laws, but it hardly made itself any less attractive to such persons.

Funny how putting Spanish speaking children in a room with English speaking children, makes the English speaking children incapable of learning how to spell.

Originally Posted by BlackShoe

North South divide? East West? Coastal Inland? Two states? We are so big and so different that we could be split into as many as eight or ten states. Going back many years, there have been some very creative maps produced, that based on economic, cultural, and political criteria, present proposals as to how the state might be divided.

I can't see any benefit to SoCal to split from NoCal. Easy for an area to say they feel so different they should be separate - until they realize they need money and water, etc.

You have probably heard of people in far north CA saying they should have their own state of Jefferson, and I actually met a woman here who feels very strongly about it. But, it will never happen. Not when faced with the reality of how intertwined all of the services, etc., are throughout the entire state.

[Ruth4Truth]

Originally Posted by LuvSouthOC

Psst. We had magnificent schools here but decades of illegal immigration was highly impactful on them. I realize the state is not responsible for enforcement of immigration laws, but it hardly made itself any less attractive to such persons.

Magnificent schools? In California?? When, back around 1900? California public schools haven't been "magnificent" since before my parents' day, if they ever were.

[TVC15]

OP: The whole planet is divided and becoming more and more that way so why not?

[ExeterMedia]

Why don't we just divide everything into City States like the days of old. We could have walls, archer towers, and huge 50 foot tall doors that travelers would have to pass through to enter the city. Instead of money, we could just barter for everything, water for wheat, water for sex. Etc. I think it would be better this way.

[Hawk J]

Originally Posted by Ruth4Truth

Magnificent schools? In California?? When, back around 1900? California public schools haven't been "magnificent" since before my parents' day, if they ever were.

Monterey High was great. We used to play hookey & go to the beach, or play pool at Louie's Poolhall or 'The Owl Club'......

[Curmudgeon]

Originally Posted by ExeterMedia

Why don't we just divide everything into City States like the days of old. We could have walls, archer towers, and huge 50 foot tall doors that travelers would have to pass through to enter the city. Instead of money, we could just barter for everything, water for wheat, water for sex. Etc. I think it would be better this way.

NO! People would stop bathing to save their water and there would be many suicides on hot days when this tender was lost to evaporation.

[ExeterMedia]

Originally Posted by Curmudgeon

NO! People would stop bathing to save their water and there would be many suicides on hot days when this tender was lost to evaporation.

Sure there will be some victims of this transition, but imagine the benefits.

Instead of solving problems on partisan political platforms, and fancy Keynesian economic theories where everyone just ends up broke,we can now solve our problems the way our ancestors solved them; through sheer, and brutal violence.

You want more grazing land for your cattle, but some NIMBY faction is blocking you from doing so? Engage in a 24/7 automatic weapon fueled firefight, the last mortally wounded and bloody member of the surviving faction gets the land.

America is about innovation, and thinking outside the box. Anyone who doesn't consider this type of system hates freedom.

[jbunniii]

I think it would be better if California had entered the union as multiple states, but trying to subdivide it now would cause more problems than it would solve.

[NoMoreSnowForMe]

Originally Posted by jbunniii

I think it would be better if California had entered the union as multiple states, but trying to subdivide it now would cause more problems than it would solve.

Why should California be different states? Truly, I don't understand this at all.

States with mountains and deserts should be separate states? Only mountain people, and only desert people? What?

Beach people?

Are we not to have any differences? Good luck creating a state where everyone agrees on everything. Nevah happen.