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Old 12-05-2014, 08:00 PM
 
Location: On the water.
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Rainfall year starts on October 1 and ends on September 30:

California Data Exchange Center
Well, silly me then.
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Old 12-05-2014, 08:14 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley
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Well, let's not blow a gasket over the spelling of Gasquet now.

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Well, it IS the 5th of December.
The whole "there hasn't been enough rain yet" every year is so obnoxious. The rainy season in CA often doesn't start until January and doesn't often end until May. Yet, EVERY frickin' year, the news starts talking about how we haven't had enough rain yet - prior to our rainy season.

Great for ratings, I suppose, but certainly not based in reality. Those of us who actually live here yawn when they go on and on about this baloney. This is why in the "OMG there hasn't been enough rain" posts, I say, "Talk to me in May."

So dumb. And every year we're all supposed to be surprised. Yawn.

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Rainfall year starts on October 1 and ends on September 30:

California Data Exchange Center
Um, where? Not here. Here, rainfall starts MAYBE in Nov/Dec, but normally more like Jan - May. And yet, Every. Frickin'. Year. People try to say we're in trouble BEFORE our rainy season.

Sheesh. Like I say, this works for newscasts and the SHTF people. But is not based in reality.
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Old 12-05-2014, 08:24 PM
 
Location: in a galaxy far far away
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No way. Maybe 105% of normal to date, but not 105% of normal for the entire rainfall year.
Rainfall for the season. And now we're a bit above that.

Heavy downpours slow traffic, set rainfall record | The Sacramento Bee

The new annual rainfall season begins July 1st

http://www.news10.net/story/weather/...rain/19078215/

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Old 12-05-2014, 08:30 PM
 
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Rainfall year starts on October 1 and ends on September 30:

California Data Exchange Center
Actually it seems to be an even split between agencies that do it that way versus ones that use a July 1 - June 30 water year.

I actually prefer the latter, since a July - June water year starts and ends during the annual minimum in most places, except areas that get a reliable SW Monsoon.
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Old 12-05-2014, 08:32 PM
 
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Rainfall for the season. And now we're a bit above that.

Heavy downpours slow traffic, set rainfall record | The Sacramento Bee

The new rainfall season begins July 1st

Good news for valley rain
Right, but a long way off from the mean water year total.
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Old 12-05-2014, 08:40 PM
 
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Right, but a long way off from the mean water year total.
True but we rarely get rainfall during the summer. That's why the national weather service starts their annual rainfall calendar on July 1st. The wettest season doesn't usually begin until October. It's that timeframe I was referring to when I said 105%. I was going by my local weather meteorologist's report earlier this week in the Northern San Joaquin/Southern Sacramento Valley area. The bay area may have received different amounts.
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Old 12-05-2014, 09:05 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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How many people here know that the fight by the Forest Service to build a road connecting Gasquet and Orleans through the Siskiyou wilderness in close proximity to Native American sacred sites resulted in a US Supreme Court decision that undermined protection of Native American religious rights? After a very long court process in which the tribes' position was supported at the local and regional level, and by the State of California, as well, the Forest Service appealed, and the case went to the Supreme Court, where a majority, lead by Sandra Day O'Connor, voted in favor of the Forest Service and logging interests.

In the end, plans for the last 6 miles of the road that remained to be completed, were abandoned due to some last minute maneuvering and persuading by one of the region's Congressional representatives, who got a law passed declaring the area off limits to construction and logging as part of a new preserve. But the Supreme Court ruling against preservation of Native American sacred sites still stands as a precedent for other similar cases.

Writer-by-the-Sea --> Portfolio --> GO Road - Struggle for the High Country

A bit of California history.
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Old 12-05-2014, 09:24 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley
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How many people here know that the fight by the Forest Service to build a road connecting Gasquet and Orleans through the Siskiyou wilderness in close proximity to Native American sacred sites resulted in a US Supreme Court decision that undermined protection of Native American religious rights? After a very long court process in which the tribes' position was supported at the local and regional level, and by the State of California, as well, the Forest Service appealed, and the case went to the Supreme Court, where a majority, lead by Sandra Day O'Connor, voted in favor of the Forest Service and logging interests.

In the end, plans for the last 6 miles of the road that remained to be completed, were abandoned due to some last minute maneuvering and persuading by one of the region's Congressional representatives, who got a law passed declaring the area off limits to construction and logging as part of a new preserve. But the Supreme Court ruling against preservation of Native American sacred sites still stands as a precedent for other similar cases.

Writer-by-the-Sea --> Portfolio --> GO Road - Struggle for the High Country

A bit of California history.
Link didn't work for me. What year did this happen?

I'm not totally influenced by Native American rights to this and that. If a graveyard can be moved for other Americans, then why not for Native Americans? Why different rules? At some point, white, red, black, white, needs to quit having special rights. When does the "guilt" end?

So sorry about slavery and the Trail of Tears, but that was a long time ago. Can we work under the same laws now, please?
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Old 12-06-2014, 01:48 AM
 
Location: Boulder Creek, CA
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Link didn't work for me. What year did this happen?

I'm not totally influenced by Native American rights to this and that. If a graveyard can be moved for other Americans, then why not for Native Americans? Why different rules? At some point, white, red, black, white, needs to quit having special rights. When does the "guilt" end?

So sorry about slavery and the Trail of Tears, but that was a long time ago. Can we work under the same laws now, please?
Are we all Even Steven now?
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Old 12-06-2014, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Mokelumne Hill, CA & El Pescadero, BCS MX.
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Rainfall year starts on October 1 and ends on September 30:

California Data Exchange Center
While the CDEC may use October 1 as a beginning date, NOAA uses July 1.

I might add to my previous comment about runoff. We actually had 18 hours of runoff with the last bit. It's a start.
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