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Old 10-17-2015, 11:46 PM
 
Location: Newport Coast, California
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Native plants-which are spectacular. Plants that grow in meditteranean climates. Xerophytes if your climates winter is dry enough(not sure why I see people in sonoma putting these in).

Drought adapted doesnt have to be rocks and astroturf
I agree native plants that are native to Mediterranean climates are fine.

However, tell that to those who tear up a beautiful green space to pave it over with gravel and a couple of out of place cactus, ugly and climatologically inappropriate. Not to mention that a rocked over yard is bad for the soil and the equivalent of paving it over.

There was even an unscrupulous company that was taking rebates and leaving paved over gravel yards in their wake. However, city "leaders" in Pacoima actually gave them an award trumpeting that they were "helping us change, and leading the way". The blight created by acres and acres of construction gravel in peoples yards where greenspace once flourished is tragic and environmentally destructive. However, it was encouraged for a while by politicos who hated a green lawn so much, they'd rather see green paved over with rock.

TURF TERMINATORS HAS GOTTEN RICH TURNING YARDS INTO GRAVEL, BUT IS IT CREATING BLIGHT?

However, some grass is actually good to have, the war on grass is waged by those who hate the idea of suburban life and will use the "drought" to try and destroy a way of life. Using perpetual "drought" is a convenient and powerful tool.
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Old 10-18-2015, 07:02 AM
 
Location: So Ca
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The "VOTERS" are the registered citizens in California. The idiotic politicians in office get there by recieving the most votes so, yeah there are, "more of them that think along the lines of these politicians than not".
True, and not too many of CA's 18 million registered voters turned out for the last election...something like 42%. California
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Old 10-18-2015, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Carpinteria
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worse than that, like 31%…
California’s 2014 Voter Turnout Was Even Worse Than You Thought | California Election Watch 2014 | FaultLines | KQED News
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Old 10-18-2015, 02:55 PM
 
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This thread reminds me of the "Congress Created Drought" signs along I-5 in the San Joaquin valley. Both the signs and this thread indulge in political conspiracy theories that make me chuckle a little... One sign says "Pelosi Created Dust Bowl." LOL, like she has supernatural powers to stop the snow from falling in the Sierras...
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Old 10-18-2015, 07:07 PM
 
Location: Sylmar, a part of Los Angeles
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The Dust Bowel is because the Democrats dump what water we have to save a tiny fish instead of people Elliott.
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Old 10-19-2015, 02:30 AM
 
Location: Boulder Creek, CA
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The Dust Bowel is because the Democrats dump what water we have to save a tiny fish instead of people Elliott.
Enlighten us on this "Dust Bowel", and how Dems and fish relate to it. It sounds rather discomforting.
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Old 10-19-2015, 06:38 AM
 
Location: Business ethics is an oxymoron.
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This thread reminds me of the "Congress Created Drought" signs along I-5 in the San Joaquin valley. Both the signs and this thread indulge in political conspiracy theories that make me chuckle a little... One sign says "Pelosi Created Dust Bowl." LOL, like she has supernatural powers to stop the snow from falling in the Sierras...
It would seem to me that when it comes to public relations and perception, farmers as a group aren't particularly very bright. Those signs are all over the Valley, not just along the 5.

If they weren't so full of themselves, or at least a little cognizant of the bigger picture, then they might not have allowed scenes like this to happen. This is a picture I took back in the springtime in Tulare. I've been saturating the local social media with it as well as here on CD ever since. Someone in the farming community must've finally seen it and perhaps this little faux pas started to get under their skin because these particular signs have now mostly disappeared. Instead having been replaced with one showing a kid scratching his head and the caption reading "is growing food a waste of water?", which is obviously a very loaded open-ended question because it does not address the underlying problems of sustainability, climate-appropriate crops, or growing crops that are intended solely to be shipped overseas. You know. The questions they hope no one asks. Like I said. Farmers were never really known for their intelligence when it comes to stuff like this.

I'll have to get a picture of that one and start hammering away on it too.

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Old 10-19-2015, 09:11 AM
 
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The Dust Bowel is because the Democrats dump what water we have to save a tiny fish instead of people Elliott.
That's not true, no matter how often it's repeated. The freshwater flowing into the Delta is not just for the smelt, it's also needed to prevent saltwater intrusion into the Delta. What about the Delta farmers and other people who live in the Delta? Why should we throw them under the bus?
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Old 10-19-2015, 09:32 AM
 
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It would seem to me that when it comes to public relations and perception, farmers as a group aren't particularly very bright.
Thanks for sharing that photo, it's quite humorous.
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Old 10-19-2015, 11:12 AM
 
Location: Carpinteria
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A thousand words good Des-Lab.
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