Gas Prices at $4.50 or More. (real estate, 2015, buy)

[V8 Vega]

The Exon Refinery in Torrence had a explosion last Febuary and would be back in operation if it wasen't for regulators won't allow them to use a old pollution control unit they have.
Also the California Occupational Safety and Health Administration, the Enviromental Protection Agency, and the Chemical Safety Board are holding up allowing them to produce gasoline.
LA Times



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[bobsnow]

California oil refineries' gross profits nearly double in 2015 - LA Times

[cb73]

And the price for a barrel of oil went under $50 today. You'd think the prices would go down.

[slo1318]

It is frustrating that our gas prices are spiking while the rest of the country is in the low to mid $2 range

[marcopolo666]

Damn whiners, they should be shot using our 2nd ammendment rights! (joke, obviously)

Seriously, concerning the "old pollution control unit" - a comprehensive law on air pollution was passed OVER THIRTY YEARS AGO to limit air pollution by refineries. Refineries were 'exempted' from having to do immediate upgrades of existing installations to meet the new standards, but were required to comply when building new units or doing major revisions of old units. So what did the refineries do? Stop building new units and over the years they closed a bunch of units that needed major work so that they wouldn't have to pay for the clean-air upgrades. So now all the refining is centered in fewer plants, which are running at over 95% capacity, on very old equipment.

It's a GOOD THING that they are requiring the refinery to comply to the decades-old law. Heck, after 30 years, they need a new law that says - "you've had over 30 years to comply, all refineries must comply within 2 years or they get shut down. Oh, and we are going to build a pipeline so we can buy Mexican gasoline, and not get shafted by you duopolists anymore when you pull the old 'hey, my poor old plant is broken, I have to raise prices' because of supposed supply and demand issues ".

[coldzero]

Originally Posted by nslander

Pretty much. If people want to stop getting gouged- predictably so in the summer-they can always drive less, get a more efficient vehicle, use public transit or ride a bike. Or they could also shut their gaping pie holes and recognize obvious market manipulation, but whining is what most of them live for, so that's not gonna happen.

It's people like you that is making this state go down the toilet. "Oh the gas prices increased? I'll just a buy a new prius. Derp Herp!" Funny thing is you recognize that there is a market manipulation, but you still bend over and take it deep.

[chacho_keva]

Originally Posted by V8 Vega

The Exon Refinery in Torrence had a explosion last Febuary and would be back in operation if it wasen't for regulators won't allow them to use a old pollution control unit they have.
Also the California Occupational Safety and Health Administration, the Enviromental Protection Agency, and the Chemical Safety Board are holding up allowing them to produce gasoline.
LA Times
All this is Democrat party nonsence.
Keep on voting for Democrats!

Maybe you should consider driving a hybrid instead of that V8 Vega.

[nslander]

Originally Posted by coldzero

It's people like you that is making this state go down the toilet. "Oh the gas prices increased? I'll just a buy a new prius. Derp Herp!" Funny thing is you recognize that there is a market manipulation, but you still bend over and take it deep.

And it's people like you who make this forum so amusing. My response to obvious market manipulation is decreasing my personal demand and doing what I can to minimize the unjust enrichment of crooks. Your response is..?

[LoriBee62]

Originally Posted by coldzero

It's people like you that is making this state go down the toilet. "Oh the gas prices increased? I'll just a buy a new prius. Derp Herp!" Funny thing is you recognize that there is a market manipulation, but you still bend over and take it deep.

As opposed to your way of life: Never such a thing as too much smog if I can buy gas for my F-350 at $2.00 a gallon. All that savings can go toward paying for my lung cancer in 20 years.

You see, some people are able to see beyond the nose on our face. That's something a surprisingly small number of Americans are capable of doing, apparently. But it's the beautiful thing about America. LOTS of states out there with priorities that suit any American. Might I suggest Texas, North Dakota, Montana or Oklahoma as starters for folks who could care less about air quality and just want cheap gas. Cheap real estate, too, and the Walmarts are extra big!

[arleigh]

Driving up fuel prices hurts every one ,transportation costs drive up goods and services inflating the dollar.
And it is not as though there were no pollution controls in operstion it's just that the up the standard for some one else to make a buck on the deal, it doesn't actually change any thing .
Some pollution control requirements only allow for so many hours on an engine, but it's a blanket number, so no matter how well the engine has been cared for, and there are no signs of excess pollution compared to a new engine the EPA does not differentiate or recognize this.
It's a typical democrat lazy law.
I've seen these laws all my life here, so it's nothing new.
Kind of like gun laws, if a few are irresponsible then out law it for every one, rather then enforcing existing laws.
It is the liberals that established the insanity plea, getting thousands off death row.
Whether a person is sane or not should make no difference .
Other wise the deturant to murder is washed out.
Democrats figured out a slick way to protect their criminal children.