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Old 08-17-2016, 07:44 PM
 
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As many of you know the state of California hasn't went red since 1988. It's been almost 30 years. Do we see this changing any time soon? Are the residents starting to become more conservative due to all the regulations and high taxes?

 
Old 08-17-2016, 07:49 PM
 
Location: Fishers, IN
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As many of you know the state of California hasn't went red since 1988. It's been almost 30 years. Do we see this changing any time soon? Are the residents starting to become more conservative due to all the regulations and high taxes?
RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - California: Trump vs. Clinton

What does this tell you?
 
Old 08-17-2016, 07:52 PM
 
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In fairness, Donald Trump isn't really a strong traditional conservative candiate in the first place. I would expect him to get blown out. But I think if a John Kaisch type republican won the republican nomination we may see a change in the future.
 
Old 08-17-2016, 07:54 PM
 
Location: LA, CA/ In This Time and Place
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I don't hinks so, except of the Republican candidate is from California, then we may vote for him/her since it's their home state.
 
Old 08-17-2016, 07:57 PM
 
Location: Fishers, IN
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In fairness, Donald Trump isn't really a strong traditional conservative candiate in the first place. I would expect him to get blown out. But I think if a John Kaisch type republican won the republican nomination we may see a change in the future.
Obviously not a Californian, but what about California politics tells you that a "traditional conservative" can win a statewide race?? Or, perhaps you see Arnold as a "traditional conservative"? What is a "traditional conservative" to you? Paul Ryan?
 
Old 08-17-2016, 08:57 PM
 
Location: Oroville, California
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Never. Its like asking if Wyoming or Oklahoma will ever go Democrat. Even more so since their demographics will continue to change in favor of the Democrats over time due to immigration. California is overwhelmingly Democrat now and the Republican's only sizable constituency - non-Hispanic whites - are going to drop from 40% to something like 25% by 2050. Its over - permanently. The 1990s were the California Republican's last gasp. Eventually the best they can hope for are local politics in rural NorCal and the Sierras.
 
Old 08-17-2016, 09:11 PM
 
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Never. Its like asking if Wyoming or Oklahoma will ever go Democrat. Even more so since their demographics will continue to change in favor of the Democrats over time due to immigration. California is overwhelmingly Democrat now and the Republican's only sizable constituency - non-Hispanic whites - are going to drop from 40% to something like 25% by 2050. Its over - permanently. The 1990s were the California Republican's last gasp. Eventually the best they can hope for are local politics in rural NorCal and the Sierras.
I'm agree
Sad but true, but it won't hurt to still hape a hope for that,long awaiting......
 
Old 08-17-2016, 09:21 PM
 
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California will go red again when Ronald Reagon is governor again.
 
Old 08-17-2016, 09:39 PM
 
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I suspect No. The smart conservatives have been leaving CA for at least a decade, probably more. Why stay in the mad house of high taxes, grotesque regulations and ever decreasing personal freedoms? And it is the middle class leaving, not the super rich.

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Old 08-17-2016, 09:58 PM
 
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I suspect No. The smart conservatives have been leaving CA for at least a decade, probably more. Why stay in the mad house of high taxes, grotesque regulations and ever decreasing personal freedoms? And it is the middle class leaving, not the super rich.

California
Um, you can look it up: it's the lower class of poor who are leaving mostly.

That said, if extremist Trump-ian and Cruz-ian "conservatives" want to leave - in droves preferably - it would be swell. Sensible ones can stay.
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