Why did the Republican Party get so small in California? (Sacramento: apartment, rent)

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by Tulemutt

Your sarcasm is correct ... except the part about Kasich would include his character and history demonstrating that he would negotiate on a bipartisan level to find common benefit for the majority. The guy understands his first duty is to the nation ... and not his base.

welllll yeah sort of but don't get too jazzed about Kasich, he is not a moderate. One of the first things he did as Governor was to severely limit collective bargaining rights of public employee unions. He has imposed several restrictions on abortions in Ohio, and has signed bills reducing early voting, limiting absentee ballots and cutting back on polling places.

[SOON2BNSURPRISE]

Originally Posted by robertpasa

There hasn't been a Republican senator from California since the 1990s. Also, in every presidential election since 1992, the Democrat won. However, there was a Republican governor through 2010.

Does it have to do with immigration patterns? But then Florida and Texas are still more Republican. They have similar immigration patterns.

More interesting question: in fast food and retail places I see almost all Latino people working, even in the totally Asian areas. Not many African American folks, like I used to see. There's a McDonald's in Rosemead where the clientele is almost all Asian. Staff is more Latino and there seems to be no conflicts.

Republican party has not decreased. The Democratic party has increased, way beyond how many members are allowed to vote.

Think about this. In Orange County, a heavy Republican favored county, all of House Seats flipped from Republican to Democrat even with there being over 200,000 more votes for John Cox than Gavin Neusom for Governor. How is that possible?

The Democrats have not won California.They ripped it off. They can not win an honest election if they tried.

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

welllll yeah sort of but don't get too jazzed about Kasich, he is not a moderate. One of the first things he did as Governor was to severely limit collective bargaining rights of public employee unions. He has imposed several restrictions on abortions in Ohio, and has signed bills reducing early voting, limiting absentee ballots and cutting back on polling places.

To be clear: I don’t care for the majority of his platform ... right. What I recognize in him: is a fair fight with considerable integrity.

What I had thought would be an honest battle for America for a change, would have been Sanders / Kasich. In which case I was all in for Bernie for an honest demolition of status quo.

What we got was the opposite: Chump / HRC. ...

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by SOON2BNSURPRISE

Republican party has not decreased. The Democratic party has increased, way beyond how many members are allowed to vote.

Think about this. In Orange County, a heavy Republican favored county, all of House Seats flipped from Republican to Democrat even with there being over 200,000 more votes for John Cox than Gavin Neusom for Governor. How is that possible?

The Democrats have not won California.They ripped it off. They can not win an honest election if they tried.

You didn’t explain: “ripped it off.”

[kttam186290]

Originally Posted by CA4Now

I have a college roommate who is from CA and she moved to Reno years ago. She describes it just as you do. Not sure why she and her husband stay, although they love skiing and the cost of living is certainly lower.

As far as the Republican party, it's changed and is no longer the party it was even a couple of decades ago.

The cost of living being lower is only a myth based on NV not having an income tax, but when you add everything else into the equation, it more than makes up for the lack of income tax. People don't figure that out until they've moved though. You can't convince them otherwise.

[kttam186290]

Who in this forum remembers Republican Congressman Tom Campbell? (Race on over to Google and look him up!)

He was what should have been the quintessential "California Republican". He was anti-war, pro-choice, pro-immigrant, pro-gay rights, pro-environment (in a practical sense) and pro-business and represented the South Bay / Silicon Valley.

He was the closest thing to a true libertarian the Republican Party in California had ever seen. If men or women of Campbell's quality would have been allowed to steer the GOP, it would still be alive and be much healthier than it currently is.

Instead, the California GOP was dominated by socially-conservative, backwoods yokels the likes of Pete Knight, Dana Rohrabacher, Shannon Grove, et. al., who all had this bizarre fixation on gay sex between males, gay marriage and, of course, abortion. The GOP let these right-wing yahoos lead them right off the proverbial cliff.

It would have been better to have men or women the caliber of Tom Campbell lead the California GOP, not these backwoods Alabama wannabes.

[kttam186290]

Originally Posted by SOON2BNSURPRISE

Republican party has not decreased. The Democratic party has increased, way beyond how many members are allowed to vote.

Think about this. In Orange County, a heavy Republican favored county, all of House Seats flipped from Republican to Democrat even with there being over 200,000 more votes for John Cox than Gavin Neusom for Governor. How is that possible?

The Democrats have not won California.They ripped it off. They can not win an honest election if they tried.

Please, in all honesty, ask yourself who in California does the Republican Party appeal to?

The small business owner? ...OK, but only if he/she is not an immigrant, gay, or pro-choice.

Big business? ...Not with the level of workplace education and diversity you'll have in California.

The "elite" Republicans in Atherton, Hillsborough, Woodside and Los Altos (in Nor Cal) or Rancho Bernardo, Bradbury, Westlake Village and Rancho Palos Verde (in So Cal) are not numerous enough to actually swing an election.

So, the California GOP caters to the very narrow base of White/native-born Hispanic-American, blue collar, exurban, conservative, military-oriented, anti-choice, anti-gay voter. Basically, the "Archie Bunkers" of California who hate the state with a passion and vote with a grudge.

That's not a winning formula!

[ysr_racer]

Originally Posted by kttam186290

Please, in all honesty, ask yourself who in California does the Republican Party appeal to?

The small business owner? ...OK, but only if he/she is not an immigrant, gay, or pro-choice.

Big business? ...Not with the level of workplace education and diversity you'll have in California.

The "elite" Republicans in Atherton, Hillsborough, Woodside and Los Altos (in Nor Cal) or Rancho Bernardo, Bradbury, Westlake Village and Rancho Palos Verde (in So Cal) are not numerous enough to actually swing an election.

So, the California GOP caters to the very narrow base of White/native-born Hispanic-American, blue collar, exurban, conservative, military-oriented, anti-choice, anti-gay voter. Basically, the "Archie Bunkers" of California who hate the state with a passion and vote with a grudge.

That's not a winning formula!

I'm a Republican, and I'm none of those things. As I said before, I'm retired, couldn't give a crap about abortion, gay marriage, marijuana, birth control...

I want less government in my life, not more.

P.S. My wife was born in the Philippines, and my grandparents in Russia.

[LuvSouthOC]

Originally Posted by kttam186290

Please, in all honesty, ask yourself who in California does the Republican Party appeal to?

The small business owner? ...OK, but only if he/she is not an immigrant, gay, or pro-choice.

Big business? ...Not with the level of workplace education and diversity you'll have in California.

The "elite" Republicans in Atherton, Hillsborough, Woodside and Los Altos (in Nor Cal) or Rancho Bernardo, Bradbury, Westlake Village and Rancho Palos Verde (in So Cal) are not numerous enough to actually swing an election.

So, the California GOP caters to the very narrow base of White/native-born Hispanic-American, blue collar, exurban, conservative, military-oriented, anti-choice, anti-gay voter. Basically, the "Archie Bunkers" of California who hate the state with a passion and vote with a grudge.

That's not a winning formula!

People are not a monolith as presented here. I do not fit your profile nor does, for example, Peter Thiel, hardly blue collar. I left the Democratic Party many years ago. I believe in smaller, not bigger government and having parents from a communist makes me very aware of the direction we are going. We cannot be both an immigrant nation and a welfare state. The two are incompatible in my opinion and that of Milton Friedman.

I also detest identity politics and the politics of victimology.

[SkyDog77]

Originally Posted by ysr_racer

I'm a Republican, and I'm none of those things. As I said before, I'm retired, couldn't give a crap about abortion, gay marriage, marijuana, birth control...

I want less government in my life, not more.

P.S. My wife was born in the Philippines, and my grandparents in Russia.

Yet you use the exact same logic when trying to define liberals. We all hate rich people and want free stuff from the government according to your posts.