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I think openly gay people need to take it down a notch sometimes if they don't want problems. If I were gay I would not be overt about it out in the presence of very religiously conservative people.
I think openly gay people need to take it down a notch sometimes if they don't want problems. If I were gay I would not be overt about it out in the presence of very religiously conservative people.
You know what, in all the months that you and your socks have been spoofing this board this is the first time you've ever said something that I actually agree with.
Why does anyone need to identify what kind of wedding they're having when ordering a wedding cake (or pizza)? What business is it of the baker to know the personal particulars of the wedding couple or their guests?
Would someone order a cake saying they want a cake for their racially mixed wedding? Would they say they want the cake for their daughter's shotgun wedding? How about a cake for their Christian/Satanist wedding? Why would any baker want to know that? So why would anyone say they would want a wedding cake and specify it by what their sexual orientation is?
Granted, I think the cake baker should not care about the customer's personal preferences in a marriage partner or their sexual orientations or religions or race, their job is to create a cake (or a pizza) and that is all. Why would customers think the baker should care?
Why would the gay customers think it should be any of the baker's business to know what their sexual orientation is? Is there some kind of special decoration that goes on a wedding cake for gay people so that it can be identified as a gay cake for gay people having a gay wedding? And what the heck is a gay wedding anyway?
I think openly gay people need to take it down a notch sometimes if they don't want problems. If I were gay I would not be overt about it out in the presence of very religiously conservative people.
Thing is, though, in Canada, you rarely know who is "religiously conservative." Unlike many Americans, Canadians don't tend to talk religion; thus, they don't know who is "religiously conservative" or not.
Oh, after a while, you get to know. A colleague of mine is Mormon, which means that coffee breaks with him are spent with me having coffee while he has juice, but we can still talk about current sports. A friend is Roman Catholic, which meant that this past weekend put a cramp in our typical weekend "let's drink lots of beer on the weekend and raise hell" plans, as he had to be at church so much. But when I got to know these guys, neither came up to me and said, "I'm Mormon/Roman Catholic, so our friendship will have to make room for that," as I understand happens with some Americans.
For the most part, Canadians tend to believe that one's religion (or lack of it) is one's own choice. It is not a topic to be discussed, asked about, or displayed.
You know what, in all the months that you and your socks have been spoofing this board this is the first time you've ever said something that I actually agree with.
Why does anyone need to identify what kind of wedding they're having when ordering a wedding cake (or pizza)? What business is it of the baker to know the personal particulars of the wedding couple or their guests?
Would someone order a cake saying they want a cake for their racially mixed wedding? Would they say they want the cake for their daughter's shotgun wedding? How about a cake for their Christian/Satanist wedding? Why would any baker want to know that? So why would anyone say they would want a wedding cake and specify it by what their sexual orientation is?
Granted, I think the cake baker should not care about the customer's personal preferences in a marriage partner or their sexual orientations or religions or race, their job is to create a cake (or a pizza) and that is all. Why would customers think the baker should care?
Why would the gay customers think it should be any of the baker's business to know what their sexual orientation is? Is there some kind of special decoration that goes on a wedding cake for gay people so that it can be identified as a gay cake for gay people having a gay wedding? And what the heck is a gay wedding anyway?
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Got to disagree with you on this one Zoiste.
It's very easy for a baker of a wedding cake to know who's wedding it is. One way, by two grooms or two brides on the top a cake.
The other, and probably the most common would be something like this.
Customer : Hi, I'd like to order a wedding cake.
Baker: Congratulations, who's the lucky women.
Customer: It's not a women.
The other way, which happened to a lesbian couple when trying to order flowers for their wedding, was they were customers of the flower shop. The owner had no trouble selling them flowers for everyday use, and knew they were a couple. However once they wanted them for their wedding, they were refused.
How humiliating and angry they must of felt.
Gay people get accused of " flaunting it " by doing the very same thing straight people do. Why is it OK for a straight women to order her wedding cake and casually mention that she is excited and found the greatest guy. If a gay guy or women did this, they are now" flaunting it"?
Thing is, though, in Canada, you rarely know who is "religiously conservative." Unlike many Americans, Canadians don't tend to talk religion; thus, they don't know who is "religiously conservative" or not.
Oh, after a while, you get to know. A colleague of mine is Mormon, which means that coffee breaks with him are spent with me having coffee while he has juice, but we can still talk about current sports. A friend is Roman Catholic, which meant that this past weekend put a cramp in our typical weekend "let's drink lots of beer on the weekend and raise hell" plans, as he had to be at church so much. But when I got to know these guys, neither came up to me and said, "I'm Mormon/Roman Catholic, so our friendship will have to make room for that," as I understand happens with some Americans.
For the most part, Canadians tend to believe that one's religion (or lack of it) is one's own choice. It is not a topic to be discussed, asked about, or displayed.
I was at a get together recently with some old friends. It was one of the rarest times that religion was even discussed and only because one of men there was a minister.
It was a good conversation, but felt very odd. You could see people choosing their words carefully as to not offend anyone. It was kind of new territory.
It seems like this would be a violation of Canada's Charter of Rights and Freedoms.
It would be a violation of the Human Rights legislation under prohibitive grounds. It is illegal to refuse service to someone because they are in a protected group.
You know what, in all the months that you and your socks have been spoofing this board this is the first time you've ever said something that I actually agree with.
Why does anyone need to identify what kind of wedding they're having when ordering a wedding cake (or pizza)? What business is it of the baker to know the personal particulars of the wedding couple or their guests?
Would someone order a cake saying they want a cake for their racially mixed wedding? Would they say they want the cake for their daughter's shotgun wedding? How about a cake for their Christian/Satanist wedding? Why would any baker want to know that? So why would anyone say they would want a wedding cake and specify it by what their sexual orientation is?
Granted, I think the cake baker should not care about the customer's personal preferences in a marriage partner or their sexual orientations or religions or race, their job is to create a cake (or a pizza) and that is all. Why would customers think the baker should care?
Why would the gay customers think it should be any of the baker's business to know what their sexual orientation is? Is there some kind of special decoration that goes on a wedding cake for gay people so that it can be identified as a gay cake for gay people having a gay wedding? And what the heck is a gay wedding anyway?
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This part of the post has been brewing in the back of my head the last few days.
First. Customers DON'T think it's the bakers business. In all the cases like this, it's been the baker or whomever that is making it their business to know. The customers are just being themselves.
Yes, wedding cakes sometimes DO have special decorations that identify whose wedding it is.
Gay people haven't coined the term " gay wedding ". Media and straight people have. Gay people refer to their weddings, as weddings.
I suggest people who think gay people should keep their heads down, try living your life without giving any hints of what your sexuality is.
Take down those photos at work. Don't talk about what you did on the weekend. NEVER answer honestly when asked about a partner etc.
See how long it lasts before you just get fed up with the whole thing...or you are " outed ".
This is not trying to be mean to you Zoiste, but I think your understanding in this area is lacking.
Rant over.
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