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Old 05-23-2024, 11:13 PM
 
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Interesting to see what's going in PEI


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Old 05-24-2024, 05:51 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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"Immigrants are stealing our jobs!" is an old (often xenophobic and racist) trope.

I didn't have that coming back to 2020s Canada on my bingo card at all!

If thoughtful people like that guy aren't ashamed of saying it on camera, then you need to give your head a shake and notice something is going on.
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Old 05-24-2024, 05:59 AM
 
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Since we've mentioned Trinidad and Tobago, I'd like to recommend Selling Illusions by Neil Bissoondath. He is from Trinidad but moved to Toronto and now lives in Québec City of all places.

It's from 1994 but a great critique of Canadian multiculturalism that foreshadows a lot of the issues we are seeing today.
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Old 05-24-2024, 07:27 AM
 
Location: Cambridge, MA/London, UK
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Since we've mentioned Trinidad and Tobago, I'd like to recommend Selling Illusions by Neil Bissoondath. He is from Trinidad but moved to Toronto and now lives in Québec City of all places.

It's from 1994 but a great critique of Canadian multiculturalism that foreshadows a lot of the issues we are seeing today.
Great read, highly recommended +1.

Multiculturalism basically leaves people in the middle, with no real "home". Its impossible to not lose your culture to an extent while you live abroad, but then on the flip side in your mind you are not really embracing what it means to be Canadian. You are left as a person without a home.

I am as proud of a Jamaican as you would find, and I go back "home" multiple times a year. But I would be lying if I said I didn't feel somewhat out of place, due to being accustomed to certain aspects of "first world life".

What you end up with is a bunch of people who are not really fully in tuned with their homeland or adopted land at the same time and that holds people back from really prospering in their new country.
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Old 05-24-2024, 07:56 AM
 
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I should point out that I don't want to sound like I'm completely down on Canadian multiculturalism.

The father of a very good friend of mine, himself an immigrant, kind of held the pen on the original policy in the 1970s.

It was definitely well-intentioned at the time.
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Old 05-24-2024, 08:03 AM
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Location: Ontario, Canada
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Since we've mentioned Trinidad and Tobago, I'd like to recommend Selling Illusions by Neil Bissoondath. He is from Trinidad but moved to Toronto and now lives in Québec City of all places.

It's from 1994 but a great critique of Canadian multiculturalism that foreshadows a lot of the issues we are seeing today.
Thank you for the recommendation, I’ll have to give it a read. I don’t know much about the Caribbean besides vague history and I know the political situation is pretty split between the two leader parties on ethnic lines over there (with some exceptions). My point is more that the Indian descended people there did not drastically reshape the island to reject Western values like some people fear happening to Canada. I’d imagine as a transplant to Quebec who wrote that book he might be more attracted to the Quebec nationalist stance on the multiculturalism issue, which is more secularist and in favour of new immigrants adapting themselves to the new culture rather than our culture adapting to the new immigration patterns. I truly don’t think the federal government is going to interfere with Quebec pursuing a different vision. I don’t personally agree with it, but they are more than content threatening separation again if the feds try and interfere. No one wants that again
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Old 05-24-2024, 08:15 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Bissoondath is certainly an interesting guy but he moved to Ontario (Toronto I guess) as a young adult and stayed there for almost 20 years. When he moved to Quebec he would have been close to 40 years old or more.

His wife is from Quebec so that likely has more to do with it than his political views on multiculturalism. Though yes they do happen to be more in line with the Quebec view of things.
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Old 05-24-2024, 10:14 AM
 
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The Toronto accent is the worst thing to come out of multiculturalism.
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Old 05-27-2024, 07:56 PM
 
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That first guy they are interviewing around the 2:05 mark has a very big gold chain and tommy hilfiger clothing is not cheap and that Karen with the dread locks is an interesting character. She starts hyperventilating.

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Old 05-28-2024, 09:35 AM
 
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The Toronto accent is the worst thing to come out of multiculturalism.
Its nails on a chalkboard to me and any actual born Jamaican would agree.
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