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yes ma'am, seriously. Consider how much stress those kids are under due to the fact that they are being forced to be on television.
Are you a child psychologist?
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The kids in school must be having a field day by now thanks to their parents. They're safety is at risk beause they are forced to be on television.
THEIR safety is at risk? What do you know that no one else does?
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They need security guards to escort them, they have media following them and their mother every where they go, the mother tells them nasty things about the media, complaining about them, yet she is half responsible for the situation they are in. And all the while, she keeps insisting that the show go on.
The paparazzi wasn't so over-the-top interested in any of them until the "divorce" came up and the paparazzi probably would have been a lot more gentle about things had Jon not been such a fool with his behavior...as in sleeping with anything that crossed his path not to mention bringing the chicks back to the house his kids are in and having one of them sunbathing on the FRONT lawn? Take her in the BACK where the paparazzi can't see ya all?
Tell that to the people that actually reported her to CPS months ago, and the hundreds of other people that have called for CPS to examine what she is doing to them.
Who were those people? Kate haters who found the local PA CPS number? Seriously....
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Just because they are fed, clothed and live in a 1.3 million dollar home doesn't mean that they are not abused, come on now. There are all kinds of child abuse. She has been seen to be verbally abusive to them.
In what way? What are your sources? Can you cite them?
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Her obsessive compulsive disorder has had an affect on them.
How much better it would be for those kids if Kate was lazy, sloppy, unorganized, unclean, etc. Ever watch the show "Hoarders" on A&E? Full of people who have REAL reasons for getting their kids taken away from them.... and it's not for being too clean or too organized. Kate's OCD is working for having 8 kids.
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If anybody thinks that the lifestyle these children have lived is normal and ok with having cameras in their home since before they can remember, having the entire country know the family's dirty laundry and the need for a bodyguard sorry but I disagree.
Of course it's not "normal". But neither is having 8 kids and living off of tax payers. They found a way to provide. You don't have to like the forum they chose to support the children they had, you don't have to agree with how many children they have, you don't have to like Kate's hair....but you have to give them some respect for not living off of tax payers monies and taking advantage of the new phenomenon that has hit TV in the past few years: reality TV shows centered around that which is NOT normal.
At the same time, if they had a quiet and respectable divorce (ie: Jon didn't get himself plastered all over the internet hanging on drunk girls at bars/cruising the Riviera with his 20-something /whoring around with Lohan/on every red carpet that would allow him) things might be different. I think of the Roloff's...should they be the "reality tv show" of the day getting divorced, and neither of the parents was whoring it up for everyone to see....it would get little to no attention.
Had Jon not been such a jerk the show could have turned into something showing how people who grow apart and have kids can make things work THROUGH a divorce. Yeah, pie in the sky....but at the same time if there was no blatent and in-your-face bad behavior on his part, if the separation and divorce didn't have some pathetic and immature undertones attached to it, and completely Jon's fault, they could have made it work. He's just too much of a child (and one does NOT wake up one day and revert back to the day of his 21st b-day) to have let that happen.
there were articles about him wandering aimlessly without goals and traveling around europe right before he married----kind of sounds like him now!
ya, until he had twins at 23 and sextuplets at 27. Then he was going to work every day, commuting something ridiculous like over an hour each way, coming home and bathing all 8 kids and getting them ready for bed, and taking care of them on Saturdays for either 8 or 16 hours while Kate worked. Yes, I think he's being a putz now, but I don't think he was like that all the time.
I don't think you know anything about what Jon did before the marriage and before the kids, unless you're related to him. The only behavior you've seen from him came after the marriage, after the kids, and after the separation, and you've seen it on TV. You have a problem with Jon, which is in itself no problem, but you really need to have a problem with Kate too.
Who doesn't stop doing what they "did" before they got married and had kids? It's called growing up.
I don't think who or what Jon was in high school or who he was when he was hanging out with his buddies or who he wass before he was married or had 8 kids means a damn thing. Life changes when you get married...and it changes again when you have children.
What Jon has shown to the world is that he, more likely than not, was immature before he got married, immature while he was married and is a complete and total immature wanna-be-twenty-something again during the course of announcing the divorce until today. Playing a mature card is beyond him. You don't need to be related to someone to qualify their behavior.
Who doesn't stop doing what they "did" before they got married and had kids? It's called growing up.
I don't think who or what Jon was in high school or who he was when he was hanging out with his buddies or who he wass before he was married or had 8 kids means a damn thing. Life changes when you get married...and it changes again when you have children.
You're preaching to the wrong choir. I was referring to the poster who claimed that Jon showed his "putz" behavior long before he was married, and I pointed out that they probably didn't know how he was back then.
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What Jon has shown to the world is that he, more likely than not, was immature before he got married, immature while he was married and is a complete and total immature wanna-be-twenty-something again during the course of announcing the divorce until today. Playing a mature card is beyond him. You don't need to be related to someone to qualify their behavior.
You need to know something about what they might have done before you make assumptions about how that relates to what they are doing now. Sure, he's immature, and maybe even stupid. But I see bias and jumping to conclusions in many of the anti-Jon posts. I think Kate has had a helluva lot to do with the way Jon is right now.
You're preaching to the wrong choir. I was referring to the poster who claimed that Jon showed his "putz" behavior long before he was married, and I pointed out that they probably didn't know how he was back then.
Sorry for that...
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You need to know something about what they might have done before you make assumptions about how that relates to what they are doing now. Sure, he's immature, and maybe even stupid. But I see bias and jumping to conclusions in many of the anti-Jon posts. I think Kate has had a helluva lot to do with the way Jon is right now.
All that matters is how you conduct yourself in any situation. Pre/during/post any situation you put yourself into.
Jon isn't shining in his moment to prove he was a "better man" before he met/married/had kids with Kate.
You either ARE a certain type of a person or you aren't. Situations can SHAPE you, but your CORE always shines through.
He's proven to have no redeeming qualities when Kate doesn't have her leash on him.
THEIR safety is at risk? What do you know that no one else does?
The paparazzi wasn't so over-the-top interested in any of them until the "divorce" came up and the paparazzi probably would have been a lot more gentle about things had Jon not been such a fool with his behavior...as in sleeping with anything that crossed his path not to mention bringing the chicks back to the house his kids are in and having one of them sunbathing on the FRONT lawn? Take her in the BACK where the paparazzi can't see ya all?
ya, until he had twins at 23 and sextuplets at 27. Then he was going to work every day, commuting something ridiculous like over an hour each way, coming home and bathing all 8 kids and getting them ready for bed, and taking care of them on Saturdays for either 8 or 16 hours while Kate worked. Yes, I think he's being a putz now, but I don't think he was like that all the time.
possibly he tried to be responsible briefly but couldn't maintain cause that wasn't him----i have seen many jon's in my previous line of work--some try to be responsible but lacking inner character,morals,etc,they usually revert
All that matters is how you conduct yourself in any situation. Pre/during/post any situation you put yourself into.
Jon isn't shining in his moment to prove he was a "better man" before he met/married/had kids with Kate.
You either ARE a certain type of a person or you aren't. Situations can SHAPE you, but your CORE always shines through.
He's proven to have no redeeming qualities when Kate doesn't have her leash on him.
Why would you think it's all right for a woman to have a "leash" on her husband? This statement tells me all I need to know.
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