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I think they'd go more toward the airport on West Blvd. is an excellent location IMO. Or more North in between 485 and 77 near the mall. There's more vacant land, ect instead of creating the stress and complications of having two states fund and construct the Olympics and then SC would try and claim the entire games because one or two venues were built in a precious suburb like they try and claim Carowinds.
What in the world are you talking about? Unless SC claims that all of Carowinds is within the state's borders--and it doesn't--then your "point" is null and void.
And the point being made is that there are already existing venues within SC that could be used. No doubt facilities at USC in Columbia would be used, and Rock Hill's efforts at carving out a sports tourism niche has already resulted in facilities like the velodrome (endorsed by USA Cycling), plus it's currently in the process of developing one of only two Olympic trial-caliber Bicycle Motocross Supercross race facilities in the nation. So why in the world would Charlotte want to unnecessarily spend funds building a bunch of facilities that already exist in the region? That would be dumb.
Atlanta's system did not handle close to half a million people in 1996 unless ridership has been stagnant for 17 years. You're saying Atlanta had to (and succeeded) "beefing up transit infrastructure" and it's just as likely to happen in Charlotte.
We obviously know exactly what needs to be done. Out of how many of the 35 cities are taking this as seriously as Charlotte?
My apologies. I just caught that mistake myself. I got misled by some poorly worded articles about the DNC convention, but still that is an uphill battle for you guys.
and actually ... ridership wasn't much lower. It has been pretty stagnant. We opened one new heavy rail line, but we have lowered frequencies and cut bus routes, so yes even in 1990 when we made the official bid transit operations were pretty strong. Most of the current/modern day complains people have about Atlanta and transit is our inability to have transit (in a sizable way) go out to 3 of our 5 core counties. It is why our % covered by transit is so low, but our percentage using transit and our overall numbers are higher. Where we have it... its pretty beefy, but it is limited to the central areas of 2 counties and some expansive in distance, but limited in frequency commuter bus operations.
To answer your final question... I think it is way too early to know how many of the 35 cities are taking this seriously. It is still fairly recent news and many mayors are still doing their quiet preliminary fact-finding/considerations.
I love how you just glossed over a collection of banks. Thats big money...
I agree with the political influence but we have no idea who will be in office when this vote takes place.
I id not gloss over it.Its a pretty established fact that Charlotte is a banking capitol.It has nothing to do about anybody in office,its about the clout that people have..
Charlotte, state of NC and the Carolinas region could manage the Olympics in 10-15 years....and to some extent is better prepared than 1996 Atlanta with the many venues within a 90 mile radius (Winston-Salem, Greensboro, Columbia, Greenville) of the city of Charlotte. I don't think it'll happen with the likes of Chicago, Houston, Dallas, etc. in the running...too many name brand/major cities positioning for the opportunity.
8 new venues were consructed for the London Games.
Right. Because Charlotte doesn't have a "political clout" that you know of, means chances are less. Things have changed since 1996 and will change again before 2014.
Umm...thats the point.I should know as the average educated person should know who your pitch man is.If Straus-Kahn were pitching France for the Olympics,Im sure people would know.
Hugh McColl has been gone out of the picture.Jessie Helms thank God is dead and he would not have helped your cause.I guess Elizabeth Dole would be good since she was also head of the Red Cross.
Oh yeh how about John Edwards he would.....oops..never mind.You tell me?Who has that kind of influence?
People know a President,the US UN Ambassador,and a a sr ranking Senator and Chairman of the Armed Services committee like Sam Nunn.
Andrew Young appealed to the African Delegation of the IOC members.He told of how Atlanta was capital of the Civil Rights movement and MLK jr. Other leaders played played up the extremely popular book and movie Gone with the Wind as if people actually walked around drinking mint juleps and women wearing hoop skirts.
Not too mention Coke is the most recognized brand in the WORLD period.Coke is a power house.You associate something with Coke and it goes beyond the normal endorsement.
Charlotte has to attract the IOC members as they would if they were to win.
Honestly Atlanta really marketed themselves well.Charlotte has got to that too.NASCAR museum is NOT the answer.It could be part of it if it was packaged right with other attractions.However honestly speaking I don't know what people around the world could possibly know about Charlotte.Banking and Nascar doent cut it.
Duke Energy, Bank of America, Wells Fargo, Chiquita would all definitely sponsor. I'm sure other companies would too. Also, a company doesn't have to be based in the city hosting for it to sponser.
Yes this is London.The Financial Center of the world not A banking center.Not Charlotte.
Where does Charlotte fall
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Charlotte, state of NC and the Carolinas region could manage the Olympics in 10-15 years....and to some extent is better prepared than 1996 Atlanta with the many venues within a 90 mile radius (Winston-Salem, Greensboro, Columbia, Greenville) of the city of Charlotte.
Agree and that is probably the best way to do it if they desire. Though I wonder if they would call it the Charlotte Olympics or more accurately the "Carolina Olympics" or something like that.
What in the world are you talking about? Unless SC claims that all of Carowinds is within the state's borders--and it doesn't--then your "point" is null and void.
Actually, many South Carolinians do.
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And the point being made is that there are already existing venues within SC that could be used. No doubt facilities at USC in Columbia would be used, and Rock Hill's efforts at carving out a sports tourism niche has already resulted in facilities like the velodrome (endorsed by USA Cycling), plus it's currently in the process of developing one of only two Olympic trial-caliber Bicycle Motocross Supercross race facilities in the nation. So why in the world would Charlotte want to unnecessarily spend funds building a bunch of facilities that already exist in the region? That would be dumb.
Do you not think previous Olympic cities had venues that could have been used but weren't?
There could be usable venues in the region. Doesn't mean they're large enough or ready to handle something like the Olympics.
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Yes this is London.The Financial Center of the world not A banking center.Not Charlotte.
Where does Charlotte fall
Based no.Not for sp
What the hello are you talking about? The NASCAR Museum is irrelevant. You will not know who will be in office within the next 11 years, do you? No. Point proven.
I would imagine the Olympics would result in a new stadium for the Panthers. Although by that time BofA Stadium will be almost 30 years old anyway and depending on how many upgrades it gets a new one may not be a bad idea by then.
Lies. I'm a born and bred South Carolinian, grew up going to Carowinds ALL the time, and we're all well aware that the park straddles the state line. No one has ever said the entire park lies in SC. Hell, it has a Charlotte address. So sorry, I'm calling BS on this one.
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Do you not think previous Olympic cities had venues that could have been used but weren't?
Only in the case that they were duplicitous. Otherwise, no; that would be stupid, and it would be even more stupid to build another facility when a perfectly suitable one already exists.
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There could be usable venues in the region. Doesn't mean they're large enough or ready to handle something like the Olympics.
The facilities in Rock Hill are actually modeled after Olympic venues and are suited for Olympic trials.
"The [Giordana Velodrome]’s geometry is similar to what is used for international events such as the Olympics. Its maximum capacity is 24 riders.
USA Cycling officials are hoping the event has an Olympic flavor."
"The city’s plans are moving forward to transform an open space of dirt at Rock Hill’s Riverwalk into one of only two Olympic trial-caliber Bicycle Motocross Supercross race facilities in the nation."
It would be quite foolish for Charlotte/NC to reinvent the wheel and build such facilities only for the Olympics when existing, Olympic-worthy venues already exist within the metro area. You really put entirely too much stock on that state line. Thankfully, the powers-that-be in Charlotte aren't nearly as provincial and realize that whatever assets the SC side of the metro has, the entire region has.
And university facilities, such as those at USC, are always used in the Olympics; they are pretty much considered default Olympic venues. I mean Williams-Brice (USC) and Memorial Stadium (Clemson) are bigger than BOA Stadium with greater seating capacities.
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