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It is, but as far as I know, none have complained about that happening in Charlotte.
I agree if voter fraud was a problem and fraud prevention was the sole intent of the law. However, allowing gun permits and NRA cards as valid forms of ID but not student ID makes the true intent of the law rather obvious.
Then tack on the provisions to shrink the early voting window, end pre-registration for 16 and 17 year olds, same day registration, etc....note, the voting block or demographic most effected by the law...not the GOP.
Voter fraud is a nonissue and grandma obtaining proper voter ID in the long run is also nonissue. But squeezing in those other provisions have absolutely nothing to do with voter fraud prevention.
One elderly person who is prevented from voting is also too much.
Who are these elderly people you insist exist that somehow have made it through their entire lives with literally not a single form of identification?
Here's a good video that was just made in this election to show just how easy it is. And don't think for a second he's the first guy to figure it out, it's way too easy.
One time he was asked for ID and the fraud was stopped, that's all it took. Why is that such a hard concept for some people to fathom to require in a democracy? Literally makes no sense how everyone would not want to protect the integrity of the only voice MOST have in government.
Who are these elderly people you insist exist that somehow have made it through their entire lives with literally not a single form of identification?
Here's a good video that was just made in this election to show just how easy it is. And don't think for a second he's the first guy to figure it out, it's way too easy.
One time he was asked for ID and the fraud was stopped, that's all it took. Why is that such a hard concept for some people to fathom to require in a democracy? Literally makes no sense how everyone would not want to protect the integrity of the only voice MOST have in government.
This guy is a proven fraud and a hoax (editing and contorting video/message to suit his baseless agenda). Note the word allegedly.
Yes, there are tons of elderly people (I know quite a few) who don't have a drivers license because they don't drive (but have other forms of ID) and haven't needed to locate official birth certificate in years. They don't belong to the NRA or have a gun permit. Maybe get out in the community especially one that doesn't look like yours and expand horizons, learn a bit more about America.
Let's just assume there is voter fraud and now it's time to put appropriate measures in place to mitigate or prevent it. Then explain to me what in the hell does shrinking the early voting window or not allowing 16 and 17 year olds to pre-register combat voter fraud? Student ID not good enough? Surely the GOP-led legislature doesn't have an ulterior motive.
Oh, I almost forgot, it's to protect the "integrity" of the system...give me a break.
.... However, allowing gun permits and NRA cards as valid forms of ID but not student ID makes the true intent of the law rather obvious. .....
Not obvious at all as you have been misinformed. These are not valid forms of ID according to state statute. The requirements are also the same as that for boarding an airplane.
People love to cook up conspiracy theories and have a remarkable ability for ignoring the facts that prove them wrong, but there is no conspiracy in NC to restrict voting to certain demographics.
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Yes, there are tons of elderly people (I know quite a few) who don't have a drivers license because they don't drive (but have other forms of ID) and haven't needed to locate official birth certificate in years. .
Any DMV office in NC will issue them a free ID just for voting purposes. This was created specifically by the Voter ID law. Furthermore an official birth certificate is only one of many options for validation. You don't have to have one to get one of these IDs.
....Then explain to me what in the hell does shrinking the early voting window or not allowing 16 and 17 year olds to pre-register combat voter fraud?.....
The voting window was not shrunk. You have been misinformed again.
I see nothing wrong with preventing people from registering until they turn 18. It's a pointless, and costly step, to maintain registration records of people who can't vote and who may not even be living in NC when they can.
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Who are these elderly people you insist exist that somehow have made it through their entire lives with literally not a single form of identification?
Here's a good video that was just made in this election to show just how easy it is. And don't think for a second he's the first guy to figure it out, it's way too easy.
One time he was asked for ID and the fraud was stopped, that's all it took. Why is that such a hard concept for some people to fathom to require in a democracy? Literally makes no sense how everyone would not want to protect the integrity of the only voice MOST have in government.
There are elderly people of all races who never had a birth certificate. They got by in their younger years by having older family members vouch for them. When those people give up their drivers license they have a problem. they can't get a copy of a birth certificate to get official ID because no certificate ever existed. Is that difficult to understand? Record keep was lax to nonexistent into the 20th century. I had family members who never had birth certificates. While those individuals are now dead, some of their contemporaries live on.
There are elderly people of all races who never had a birth certificate. They got by in their younger years by having older family members vouch for them. When those people give up their drivers license they have a problem. they can't get a copy of a birth certificate to get official ID because no certificate ever existed. Is that difficult to understand? Record keep was lax to nonexistent into the 20th century. I had family members who never had birth certificates. While those individuals are now dead, some of their contemporaries live on.
So all these people you know that somehow do not have a single form of identification, they can get a free one from the DMV. Does that satisfy the issue here?
I hate that people resort to using "well back in the day" rationale for their point of view. Fact is there are multiple forms of ID that can be used including a free one from the DMV. This does NOT target any specific demographic as it applies to everyone, rich/poor, black/white, dem/rep.
Thanks Waldo for continuing to inject actual fact.
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