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Most of the time good restaurants don't close, though there is definitely exceptions i.e. I thought Salsa's was great Mexican food for around here. Most closings seem to be chain restaurants or poorly run independents. Take La Isla for instance. The food was okay, but it was always dead and to make matters worse they played uncensored rap music in the restaurant. While that may be appropriate for a bar/club, I found it totally innapropriate for a restaurant. Last time I ate there I wondered why the place was even open.
That's not true at all. It takes more than a resturant to simply be "good" for it to stay in business. You should research the resturant industry. Again, resturants open and close all the time. Its a revolving door. Its one of most risky businesses to be in. You can do everything right, have great service, great food, and lines out the door, and still close because you miscalculated your food costs, or your building rent, or your opearting costs, etc. This thread started in 2008. I'll say it again, as long as this thread is mostly speaking of resturants, it will never end.
Sure, restaurants close due to bad business plans, crappy food, incompetent management, and surly wait staff. This does happen all the time. However, good, well managed, restaurants close only during long term recessions and economic downturns. For most people eating out is an easy expense to cut out and closing restaurants are a clear sign an area is in economic distress. Many of the restaurants mentioned in this topic are long term favorites so I think it is worthy of discussion. And there have been discussion of non-beanaries here as well which is a further sign of this downed economy in Charlotte.
Sure, restaurants close due to bad business plans, crappy food, incompetent management, and surly wait staff. This does happen all the time. However, good, well managed, restaurants close only during long term recessions and economic downturns. For most people eating out is an easy expense to cut out and closing restaurants are a clear sign an area is in economic distress. Many of the restaurants mentioned in this topic are long term favorites so I think it is worthy of discussion. And there have been discussion of non-beanaries here as well which is a further sign of this downed economy in Charlotte.
I take issue with everything you just said. You have absolutely no way of knowing if any of these restaurants that closed were "well managed" or not. And many of the restaurants mentioned here were not "long time favorites". And the ones that were long term favorites, how do you know they simply haven’t run their course? I’ll ask you guys again to research the restaurant industry and you’ll see exactly what I’m talking about. Restaurants come and go all the time. New ones, long time favorites, chains, independents, all of them. It’s the industry. This thread is pointless. It should be renamed, "The revolving door of the resturant industry".
If I learn about a place that has closed down and it saves me making a wasted trip, then the thread is not pointless.
That wasn't the point of this thread. It was supposed to highlight business closings as it relates to Charlotte and the recession. My point is that the heavy focus on resturants is misleading. I stand by that claim. As I've said a million times, the resturant industry in characterised by constant openings and closings. Someone should start a seperate thread for resturant information.
I take issue with everything you just said. .... I’ll ask you guys again to research the restaurant industry and you’ll see exactly what I’m talking about. ....
Seems to me that if you are taking "issue" with what is posted here, then it is on you to do this research.
I heard that the Salsa's at Sardis and Monroe closed yesterday. I haven't driven by to confirm it for myself, but if so, it makes me sad. That was one of my favorite places to go for lunch with my co-workers.
They still have 2(?) other locations. One in Ayrsley and one off of Pineville-Matthews Road.
Just found out that Red Lion in Ayrsley recently closed. In that case, I will blame the management. The place was awesome when they first opened. Then after the first year they started cutting corners on the food big time (same names on the menu, far inferior quality), cutting down their wide beer selection...the people who owned and ran that place had something good and let it go down the tubes.
Just found out that Red Lion in Ayrsley recently closed. In that case, I will blame the management. The place was awesome when they first opened. Then after the first year they started cutting corners on the food big time (same names on the menu, far inferior quality), cutting down their wide beer selection...the people who owned and ran that place had something good and let it go down the tubes.
+1. After our last visit, I'm not surprised at all. Went from incredible handmade fish and chips to Food-Lion frozen crap.
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