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Old 09-18-2009, 05:17 PM
 
Location: Moon Over Palmettos
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I hope that when I grow up, I grow a pair like this man did!

 
Old 09-18-2009, 05:46 PM
 
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This is not true. I thought the latest report was that the assailants weren't even in a car. They were walking down the street
Yo my sorce is a news story on WBT radio late today....What is your sorce?
 
Old 09-18-2009, 05:57 PM
 
Location: Right where I want to be.
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Sorry, I don't see any common sense in this decision. He wasn't defending himself.
The DA thought otherwise.
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"His idea to find the vehicle and try to delay the escape of those who invaded his home did not make him the aggressor nor did that take away his right of self defense. Mr. McClure believed that his life was in danger and fired in self-defense."
 
Old 09-18-2009, 06:02 PM
 
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This is not true. I thought the latest report was that the assailants weren't even in a car. They were walking down the street
Actually they were running away from a crime they had committed when the victim tried to stop them so police could arrest them at which time they threatened the victim causing him to fear for his life (yet again) at which point the victim defended himself. This guy did not chase these boys to kill them, he did not run them down and open fire. He shot AFTER they threatened his life.
 
Old 09-18-2009, 06:25 PM
 
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Actually they were running away from a crime they had committed when the victim tried to stop them so police could arrest them at which time they threatened the victim causing him to fear for his life (yet again) at which point the victim defended himself. This guy did not chase these boys to kill them, he did not run them down and open fire. He shot AFTER they threatened his life.
AFTER he let his home and followed them down the street.
 
Old 09-18-2009, 06:31 PM
 
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Yo my sorce is a news story on WBT radio late today....What is your sorce?

A follow up story last week in the observer and today the DA's statement.
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After a brief period, the other man left and Mr. McClure got off the ground, retrieved a gun he had in the basement, and went to check on his wife. He saw a number of young men running from his house into the woods. From previous break-ins at his residence he believed that the robbers were running to a vehicle on the other side of the woods. His wife told him she was okay and he got into his vehicle. His intention at that time was to get to their car before they did and to shoot out the tires to immobilize their car until the police arrived.

As Mr. McClure approached the area where he thought a car might be parked, there was no car, and instead he saw all the young men running towards him. At this point he fired a shot in the air in an attempt to scatter them away from him and his vehicle and back into the woods. Instead, they kept running towards him. Some passed in front of his car and some behind. As Marcus Fluker passed his car he began to turn towards Mr. McClure. McClure, an Army veteran, had identified the weapon pointed at him at his house as some type of automatic weapon. When Fluker turned towards him he thought he was about to get “sprayed” by fire from this automatic weapon. He fired at him. McClure did not know if he struck him because Mr. Fluker turned back around and continued to run. At this point, McClure no longer felt in danger and did not fire his weapon again.
 
Old 09-18-2009, 06:44 PM
 
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A follow up story last week in the observer and today the DA's statement.
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After a brief period, the other man left and Mr. McClure got off the ground, retrieved a gun he had in the basement, and went to check on his wife. He saw a number of young men running from his house into the woods. From previous break-ins at his residence he believed that the robbers were running to a vehicle on the other side of the woods. His wife told him she was okay and he got into his vehicle. His intention at that time was to get to their car before they did and to shoot out the tires to immobilize their car until the police arrived.

As Mr. McClure approached the area where he thought a car might be parked, there was no car, and instead he saw all the young men running towards him. At this point he fired a shot in the air in an attempt to scatter them away from him and his vehicle and back into the woods. Instead, they kept running towards him. Some passed in front of his car and some behind. As Marcus Fluker passed his car he began to turn towards Mr. McClure. McClure, an Army veteran, had identified the weapon pointed at him at his house as some type of automatic weapon. When Fluker turned towards him he thought he was about to get “sprayed” by fire from this automatic weapon. He fired at him. McClure did not know if he struck him because Mr. Fluker turned back around and continued to run. At this point, McClure no longer felt in danger and did not fire his weapon again.
Good details....more than on WBT but its all good.....If the thugs want to they can come to my house. The news story wont be complicated at all..lol
 
Old 09-18-2009, 06:46 PM
 
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Default Self defense

If you can believe anything on MSNBC the decision was made not to prefer charges is one I would agree with. The home invaders had pulled off crime and left. He could have just called the cops but instead he pursued them onstensibly to identify, confront or detain them and felt compelled to defend himself by killing one of them. He seemed to know right were to go and maybe these thugs have terrorized their neighborhood for some time and he should be rewarded for his community service. Who knows, the next time the punks came back to terrorize him and his wife they would have graduated to more cruel ways of dealing with their victims should they have filed a police report.

If someone were to be sued it should be the perps parents.
 
Old 09-18-2009, 07:59 PM
 
Location: Near the water
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A follow up story last week in the observer and today the DA's statement.
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After a brief period, the other man left and Mr. McClure got off the ground, retrieved a gun he had in the basement, and went to check on his wife. He saw a number of young men running from his house into the woods. From previous break-ins at his residence he believed that the robbers were running to a vehicle on the other side of the woods. His wife told him she was okay and he got into his vehicle. His intention at that time was to get to their car before they did and to shoot out the tires to immobilize their car until the police arrived.

As Mr. McClure approached the area where he thought a car might be parked, there was no car, and instead he saw all the young men running towards him. At this point he fired a shot in the air in an attempt to scatter them away from him and his vehicle and back into the woods. Instead, they kept running towards him. Some passed in front of his car and some behind. As Marcus Fluker passed his car he began to turn towards Mr. McClure. McClure, an Army veteran, had identified the weapon pointed at him at his house as some type of automatic weapon. When Fluker turned towards him he thought he was about to get “sprayed” by fire from this automatic weapon. He fired at him. McClure did not know if he struck him because Mr. Fluker turned back around and continued to run. At this point, McClure no longer felt in danger and did not fire his weapon again.

and you do not see how he was defending himself?
 
Old 09-18-2009, 07:59 PM
 
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AFTER he let his home and followed them down the street.
So what... in his home or down the street the man had the right to defend himself.
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