04-08-2009, 06:06 PM
Location: MIA
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Reputation: 570
I hear from the Planning and Zoning Administrator in Lake County that I have no chance of stopping a cell tower going up in my neighborhood. Actually, on the property (owned by my redneck neighbor) adjacent to my house, less than 250' away from my front doorstep. My redneck neighbor solicited to several cell phone companies his front acreage, and CIngular offered the sleaze ball $1,500/month for the right to maintain a tower on his property. Nobody on our semi-rural residential street was ever notified of any public hearing. I hear that cell phone companies dominate the lobbying scene in Springfield, leaving little hope for residents, or county administrators to put any restrictions on these eye sore landmarks.
04-08-2009, 08:38 PM
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Reputation: 4119
Check out what your zoning allows. Here in kane county where if you are unincorporated just about anything goes - the tower has to be half the height away from the closest residence. You likely will not be able to block it - but at least make sure he has it positioned as far away as possible.
04-08-2009, 09:35 PM
Location: Sugar Grove, IL
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Reputation: 1640
sorry to say, gardner is right. If you are in an unincorporated area, you have some problems! If you are in a municipality, I cannot believe that they would let that happen in a residential area.
04-08-2009, 09:53 PM
Location: Wheaton, Illinois
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Capitalism in action. You accept the bad with the good when you believe in capitalism and free markets.
04-08-2009, 10:17 PM
Location: MIA
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The redneck neighbor just got a car and a tractor reposessed last week. Hopefully he is on his last leg (financially) and cannot afford to counter whatever legal injunction me and the other 15 houses on our street file to stop him. But then, I don't know if I'll be fighting my redneck neighbor or Cingular on that one. Hopefully I can tangle the property up in enough trouble with the EPA (he is right next to a wetland) and whatever else I can find, that Cingular will lose interest in building the tower.
04-08-2009, 10:39 PM
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Where the hell do you live? I'd think about investing in a nice acetylene cutting torch if I were you! And some black clothes.
04-08-2009, 10:58 PM
Location: Chicago
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Reputation: 29983
Quote:
Originally Posted by
cuba libre
The redneck neighbor just got a car and a tractor reposessed last week. Hopefully he is on his last leg (financially) and cannot afford to counter whatever legal injunction me and the other 15 houses on our street file to stop him. But then, I don't know if I'll be fighting my redneck neighbor or Cingular on that one. Hopefully I can tangle the property up in enough trouble with the EPA (he is right next to a wetland) and whatever else I can find, that Cingular will lose interest in building the tower.
Or you could move to a place that is zoned to your tastes instead of to your redneck neighbors' tastes. My suspicion is that he lives in an unincorporated area precisely so that he doesn't have to answer to people like, well, you.
04-09-2009, 08:01 AM
Location: Chicago, Illinois
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Reputation: 1386
that can't be good for him or the neighbors...health wise. it's never a good thing to live under a large area of electricity and/or cellular phone waves. It can have adverse effects on one's health and the enivronment itself. There have been cases where people have thought there house was haunted when in reality, power lines were effecting the eletromagnetic field of the immediate area playing tricks with cameras and lights.
04-09-2009, 08:16 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by
At1WithNature
that can't be good for him or the neighbors...health wise. it's never a good thing to live under a large area of electricity and/or cellular phone waves. It can have adverse effects on one's health and the enivronment itself. There have been cases where people have thought there house was haunted when in reality, power lines were effecting the eletromagnetic field of the immediate area playing tricks with cameras and lights.
Unfortunately for you, cell antennas have not been conclusively determined to be harmful. One get have effects from the antenna if you work on them 5 days a week and have to be within several feet of the actual antenna.
Antennas on a 75'+ tower will not have adverse effects on one's health due the manner in which the radio waves project and the way the waves intensity diminishes over distances. You're probably more at risk from the actual cell phone you keep on your hip seven days a week.
As for the OP's questions, if the county's (I presume you're in an unincorporated location) zoning allows for the tower as-of-right, there might not be much you can do. You could try to litigate, but I bet that wouldn't stop the actual construction. Now, if a public hearing review is required and those requirements were not followed then you certainly have defensible recourse.
But really, the first thing you need to do is talk to the zoning admin. again and have that person explain exactly what the zoning allows/prohibits.
Get the facts before you start lawyering up.
Edit: Looking at the Lake County Unified Development Ordinance (UDO), it appears that the neighbor is completely within their rights, provided they are meeting all the height, setback and land area requirements.
Though, only $1,500/month seems pretty paltry. I would have tried for at least $2,500/month.
Last edited by mendelman; 04-09-2009 at 08:55 AM ..
04-09-2009, 10:26 AM
Location: Chicago, Illinois
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the word conclusively is subjective.
http://www.aehf.com/articles/em_sensitive.html
The University of Texas, as well as hundreds of Universities, have concluded that electromagnetic fields can affect health. Cellular phones operate at the radiofrequency (RF) part of the electromagnetic spectrum. Considering the vast amount of energy and how large the proposed tower is, I guarantee the resident of that home and his neighbors will be affected and there isn't much that they can do about it except to move away. Good Luck trying to sell your house that is next to this eye sore!
Many believe the severe decline in honey bee population is due to the effects of cellular phone waves that effect the eletromagnetic fields. If honey bees die from it, then obviously it will have an adverse effect on other live things whether they be humans or not.
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news0...ones_bees.html
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House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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