Guys who wear hats in restaurants, during the National Anthem, etc. (Chicago: to live, under 21)

[clean_polo]

Originally Posted by cubssoxfan

Good thing Mrs. Cubssox likes a glass of wine or beer and doesn't mind my cap wearing ways. Of course it fits us both because it's all in moderation

Can I just ask how you manage to be a Cubs and a Sox fan? Lol

[Jax419]

Quit giving a ***** about others and worry about yourself

[Drover]

Originally Posted by Lookout Kid

So we're just supposed to watch our society deteriorate further until everyone is a fat slob wearing sweatpants and untucked beer shirts to work? It has to stop somewhere. Flip-flops are bad enough.

False analogy. Antiquated standards or no standards aren't the only options. A hat at a casual dining (key word casual) establishment just ain't that big a deal.

[Irishtom29]

I thank Coldwine and Nanannie for the kind words.

[Curmudgeon]

Originally Posted by Orangeish

Customs change, some accept some kick and scream the whole way. I'm not wearing a hat into Ruth Cris, but if I want to wear a hat out to the local pizza place, it's a pretty big shame if someone like you will just write off my whole being over something so minor

I have a feeling those doing the writing off will be losing more than those of us being wrote off.

Nah! We'll simply maintain our standards of deportment and assume room temperature first!

Originally Posted by Gunner0325

Ok it's obvious the older generation and younger generation will never agree on this topic and that is fine...but just so you know I have had friends in the service who wore hats indoors sometimes at lower scale restaurants or bars and they were not in uniform, they were in casual clothes. It's obviously a generational thing. And I do not think it is offensive or rude to anyone...

It probably is but I still find it boorish. But that's just me!

[Jandur]

Originally Posted by Drover

False analogy. Antiquated standards or no standards aren't the only options. A hat at a casual dining (key word casual) establishment just ain't that big a deal.

It all depends on environment to a certain degree. Some places wearing a hat or being dressed in sweats is more "socially acceptable", whatever that means.

Personally I view hats as something functional, so I'm not sure why someone would wear one to dinner.

[StreetBAller85]

i wear my hat to the side, backwards, and front. and in a restaurant. and i text whenever i want to! hah! who seriously cares in 2010

[Steve-o]

My hat comes off for the national anthem, but not for dinner, especially if the restaurant isnt even fancy. Who cares? I support hats in restaurants because you have less of a chance of getting hair in your food.

[Curmudgeon]

Originally Posted by StreetBAller85

i wear my hat to the side, backwards, and front. and in a restaurant. and i text whenever i want to! hah! who seriously cares in 2010

Those of us who know proper capitalization and punctuation. Those of us who were properly raised. Those of us who practice the correct social graces. In other words, those of us with a reasonable degree of sophistication and good manners!

Originally Posted by Steve-o

My hat comes off for the national anthem, but not for dinner, especially if the restaurant isnt even fancy. Who cares? I support hats in restaurants because you have less of a chance of getting hair in your food.

I'm sure. As for who cares, it's those of us who have good manners and don't want to see social settings all go down the sewer. By the way, even when I had it, getting my hair in my dinner was never a problem. You'd be surprised at what a decent trim and a comb can do.

[Lookout Kid]

Originally Posted by Drover

False analogy. Antiquated standards or no standards aren't the only options. A hat at a casual dining (key word casual) establishment just ain't that big a deal.

The standard has to be set somewhere. Sure, we all have the personal freedom to go shirtless and wear airbrushed porn seens on our t-shirts if we want to, but that doesn't make it polite or socially acceptable.

Most dining establishments in Chicago are casual. I would qualify most sushi restaurants, or even trendy places like Avec as "casual"--but ball caps really shouldn't be worn to places like this. Most people understand this, but every now and then you see some goof wearing a ball cap in Blackbird, and he really does stand out as a boorish hick. Go ahead and wear your ball cap in McDonalds or at the bar. Sports bars are obvious exceptions as well. But understand there is a line that excludes ONLY the most casual environments.