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Old 08-05-2011, 12:46 PM
 
Location: New York NY
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plenty of middle-income families can and do live comfortably with 2 or even 3 kids in a 3 bdrm condo. but in chicago and many other cities the big problem is, as someone above noted, the schools. since city schools too often are not a place most middle class families want to send their kids the demand for large middle income apartments is going to be in the 'burbs.

But the problem there is that some 'burbs (certainly in metro NYC but I don't know specifically about Chicago) have zoning that either prohibits or economically discourages any mulit-family housing at all

So where the schools are good and families might wnt to settle are either in expensive neighborhoods in the city, which puts the housing out of the reach of the middle and working classes, or in the suburbs, where zoning and tradition often generate hostility against any multi family housing at all. Ergo, reduced numbers of condos for middle-class families.
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Old 08-05-2011, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Wicker Park/East Village area
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More? There's too many as it is!
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Old 08-05-2011, 04:35 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL SouthWest Suburbs
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Condos market everyone
no class, gender race etc is missed on a buck to be made!
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Old 08-06-2011, 07:04 AM
 
Location: International Spacestation
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Good question. Urban core condos are often marketed to the young rich crowd. Affordable Condos would be great for Chicago. I know the high prices are to keep the ghetto people out, but the middle class normal people can not afford them either.
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Old 08-06-2011, 07:08 AM
 
Location: International Spacestation
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- Good schools for their children: the "family" part
- Price/value-conscious: the "middle-class" part
Why is it that people assume the suburbs is where all the GOOD SCHOOLS are, like all the schools in the core are Eastside High with no Mr Clark?? Many factors go into creating and maintaining a good school.
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Old 08-06-2011, 09:56 AM
 
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I would say middle class in the city is household income of 100k which will get you a 300k condo which isn't hard to find. Its pretty easyfor example for the guy to make 60k a year and woman 40k.
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Old 08-06-2011, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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Good question. Urban core condos are often marketed to the young rich crowd. Affordable Condos would be great for Chicago. I know the high prices are to keep the ghetto people out, but the middle class normal people can not afford them either.

Aren't the high prices a result of market forces?
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Old 08-08-2011, 06:26 AM
 
Location: Uptown
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I think my wife and I are the only ones in our building without kids...thank god.
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Old 08-08-2011, 06:28 AM
 
Location: Uptown
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Sadly, that one condo I posted about a week ago is now listed as Pending, before a final price reduction to $220,000.

Of course, with Austerity! all the rage now, I'm not too concerned about home prices rising a year from now.

home prices almost certainly will stay flat or fall depending on 'hood. That said interest rates could very well jump.
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Old 08-08-2011, 12:06 PM
 
Location: Tower Grove East, St. Louis, MO
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I definitely think I'm going to start putting an exclamation at the end of Austerity! whenever I use it now. Good stuff.
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