Why is Chicago's real estate market so affordable?? (Lincoln: home, neighborhoods)

[prhill]

Originally Posted by Vlajos

No it hasn't. Look up historical crime rates. The vast majority of the City is safer than ever.

Then how come when I turn on the news I see people in areas like Lincoln park and lakeview and Wicker Park and the Gold Coast and Streeterville on and on people saying they are leaving the city because those areas that were once safe have become dangerous and they can't deal with it anymore?

[Maintainschaos]

Originally Posted by Brian_M

Yup, not a place for me and I highly doubt I'll return. Don't worry though, it's not Only Chicago, I'm not a fan of urban areas the world over. My limit seems to be about a half-million total area population.

Meanwhile, I think I just saw that NYC, a city 4 times (or more) larger, has had less than half the murders of Chicago?

Even if the crime Isn't everywhere, who wants to be associated with the city that has the highest homicide rate in the country? That's just not something with which a sane person wants to be associated.

Sorry, I know some people hate it and feel stuck because they grew up there, have family there. But it's a Really hard sell for the rest of the country.... it's like saying you're going to move your kids to the SE for the public schools. Or Fairbanks, AK for their even and moderate climate.... But the bottom line is that it IS a part of why there's a ton of housing supply and very low demand. Not all (wow at those tax rates!), clearly, but to dismiss it is to cast into doubt the validity of your opinion.

Chicago has nowhere near the highest homicide rate in the nation.

[Vlajos]

Originally Posted by prhill

Then how come when I turn on the news I see people in areas like Lincoln park and lakeview and Wicker Park and the Gold Coast and Streeterville on and on people saying they are leaving the city because those areas that were once safe have become dangerous and they can't deal with it anymore?

Please go back to school and take a statistics and history course so we can have an intelligent conversation.

[prhill]

Originally Posted by Vlajos

Please go back to school and take a statistics and history course so we can have an intelligent conversation.

Answer my question?

[Vlajos]

Originally Posted by prhill

Answer my question?

Look up historical crime stats.

[prhill]

Originally Posted by Vlajos

Look up historical crime stats.

Stop hiding and answer my question?

[Vlajos]

Originally Posted by prhill

Stop hiding and answer my question?

I answered it. Crime has not spread in fact, it's lower than it used be, by a lot.

Look it up. You clearly have no historical perspective on crime rates around the City

[prhill]

Originally Posted by Vlajos

I answered it. Crime has not spread in fact, it's lower than it used be, by a lot.

Look it up. You clearly have no historical perspective on crime rates around the City

Then explain why it is on the news they keep interviewing people who have lived in all of those areas mentioned who keep saying they no longer feel safe in those areas and are moving out?

[Vlajos]

Originally Posted by prhill

Then explain why it is on the news they keep interviewing people who have lived in all of those areas mentioned who keep saying they no longer feel safe in those areas and are moving out?

Crime has always been present in Lincoln Park, Lake View, etc. But it was much worse years ago in those areas. Look up the stats.

Let me guess. You voted for Trump.

[prhill]

Originally Posted by Vlajos

Crime has always been present in Lincoln Park, Lake View, etc. But it was much worse years ago in those areas. Look up the stats

So all of these people who actually live in those areas who always felt safe until now are all wrong? So they held meetings in those areas this year to talk about crime suddenly being an issue and this is all in their heads? Every one of them is wrong?