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Old 12-11-2008, 03:52 PM
 
Location: Chicago - Logan Square
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Just to clarify - this thread (and a few others) are about Palmer Square, not Logan Square as a whole. Logan Square is a very large area with many different neighborhoods of varying safety. Bucktown is a neighborhood within Logan Square.

Palmer Square is one of the better parts of Logan of Square. There has been one murder (http://chicago.everyblock.com/crime/locations/neighborhoods/palmer-square/by-date/2008-01-01,2008-12-11/by-primary-type/homicide/ - broken link) in Palmer Square this year. It wasn't random or gang related, it was an artist being stabbed after a fight at a party.

The area is not crime free, in terms of safety it falls just where it does geographically - between Humboldt Park and Bucktown. A lot of people don't seem to even understand where this area is, never mind what it is like.
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Old 12-12-2008, 08:55 AM
 
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Default Was there

I think it would be funny to start collecting dog **** from PS to throw in the yards of the families of convicted criminals who do violent crime in PS. I know people who could keep the trend alive and strong for decades...



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Just to clarify - this thread (and a few others) are about Palmer Square, not Logan Square as a whole. Logan Square is a very large area with many different neighborhoods of varying safety. Bucktown is a neighborhood within Logan Square.

Palmer Square is one of the better parts of Logan of Square. There has been one murder (http://chicago.everyblock.com/crime/locations/neighborhoods/palmer-square/by-date/2008-01-01,2008-12-11/by-primary-type/homicide/ - broken link) in Palmer Square this year. It wasn't random or gang related, it was an artist being stabbed after a fight at a party.

The area is not crime free, in terms of safety it falls just where it does geographically - between Humboldt Park and Bucktown. A lot of people don't seem to even understand where this area is, never mind what it is like.
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Old 12-12-2008, 09:07 AM
 
Location: Chicago - Logan Square
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I think it would be funny to start collecting dog **** from PS to throw in the yards of the families of convicted criminals who do violent crime in PS. I know people who could keep the trend alive and strong for decades...
Hmm.....not a bad idea, but I was planning on returning it to the doorsteps of the dog owners that left it.
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Old 12-14-2008, 09:05 PM
 
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They are finally taking the fencing down. YAY. I can't wait to actually walk all the way through the park.

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Hmm.....not a bad idea, but I was planning on returning it to the doorsteps of the dog owners that left it.
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Old 01-21-2009, 08:37 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Logan Square does still have some serious gang trouble. The Latin Kings and Spanish Cobras had a gang war that flared up a few years ago and took some innocent lives. A friend of a friend was murdered behind her Logan Square apartment back in 2003 (a white woman in her 20s) and the cops ruled the cause of death "unknown" saying she may have fallen from her balcony (but her family strongly suspects otherwise and believe she was pushed). People poo-pooing crime in Logan Square are ignorant of the facts. Logan Square is not "The Ghetto", and the murder rate is relatively low compared to other gang-infested areas. But it does present dangers that don't exist in other popular North Side neighborhoods (or near Norhthwest neighborhoods like adjacent Bucktown)...
Chicagoist: Schizophrenic Logan Square?
I remember that happening. It was not long after I moved out of my place at Humboldt and McClean.

I am sad to hear you knew her. There have been more than a few instances of women getting murdered and worse in that area.

I recall a young woman (around the same time frame) being found in an alley (I think the alley that runs in back of the south side of Armitage) that had been savagely raped,beaten,and murdered. I also recall a woman that (lived on Dickens just west of Humboldt I believe) being the victim of a home invasion,robbery,rape and murder in 2002 or 2003. Crime was still pretty vicious around there up until a few years ago. It still is an area that is certainly questionable in terms of safety.
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Old 01-21-2009, 09:04 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Just to clarify - this thread (and a few others) are about Palmer Square, not Logan Square as a whole. Logan Square is a very large area with many different neighborhoods of varying safety. Bucktown is a neighborhood within Logan Square...
To clarify further:

Actually Bucktown is a neighborhood in the West Town community as well the Logan Square community. It is mostly located in the Logan Square "community area" ,but part of it is in the West Town "community area."
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Old 01-21-2009, 11:52 PM
 
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FACT- LS gets less than 1/3rd of the murder dished out to the average Chicago neighborhood.

Also, LS isn't Uptown, LS s 50% bigger in size. Most of what murder does happened in LS is focused away from the good areas. Palmer Square from this poster only had one murder in the past year as an example.
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Old 01-22-2009, 12:30 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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FACT- LS gets less than 1/3rd of the murder dished out to the average Chicago neighborhood.
FACT - You're wrong.

FACT - According to chicago.everyblock.com which uses CPD's CLEAMAP data, Logan Square has experienced 14 murders as of July 2007.

FACT - According to the same source, Chicago has experienced 746 murders in the same time period.

FACT - On a per-capita basis over the aforementioned time period, and assuming that Logan Square's population has increased by an average of 3% per year since the 2000 census, Logan Square's murder rate was 16 per 100,000.

FACT - On a per-capita basis over the same time period, the city's overall murder rate was 26 per 100,000.

FACT - Whatever the merits are of Logan Square with regard to its crime rate versus the rest of the city, 16 is not remotely close to 1/3rd of 26.
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Old 01-22-2009, 12:52 AM
 
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Default uh no

All fine but July 2007 is a year and a half ago Drover, so 16 over a year and a half, lets see thats about 10 per year, and 10 is pretty much 1/3rd of 26, so i was a little off! Man you are falling with every quote!
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Old 01-22-2009, 01:02 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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http://redeye.chicagotribune.com/media/acrobat/2009-01/44557185.pdf (broken link)
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