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Old 08-23-2009, 12:05 PM
 
Location: Wheaton, Illinois
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Because the school is overcrowded with students from OUTSIDE of the neighborhood. There is very little space for children that live in the neighborhood.

Do kids from the neighborhood get priority?

This is so much bull****. Every school should be a neighborhood school and every school should be a good school. Seems to me that magnet schools are a ploy to avoid making all the schools good and a way to oil the squeaky wheel rather than all the wheels.
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Old 08-23-2009, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Do kids from the neighborhood get priority?

This is so much bull****. Every school should be a neighborhood school and every school should be a good school. Seems to me that magnet schools are a ploy to avoid making all the schools good and a way to oil the squeaky wheel rather than all the wheels.
That is a good question. I would hope that neighborhood kids get priority. I would imagine that is the way it should work. I will have to dig deeper in hopes of finding out.

People are trying to portray this situation as some sort of ethnic or "racially" motivated issue, but it is not.

It is funny how many people talk about "diversity" and supposed segregation in life and on this site, but when the situation is skewed heavily in the favor of a "minority" group they want to keep the segregation that heavily favors their "minority" group. If a case of EXTREME segregation such as this one benefits them then all of the sudden segregation is ok.

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Old 08-23-2009, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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...and what is your take on this,oh Illustrious Link Poster (with usually no comments on an issue) of City-Data?
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Old 08-23-2009, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Wheaton, Illinois
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THis from the school's website---"Our school is a Gifted Center for Hispanic Students, offering an accelerated bilingual program in grades 1-8."

This implies that the school is not for neighborhood kids. If so, (if) then the people in the neighborhood wanting to take the school for themselves is sensible enough.
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Old 08-23-2009, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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THis from the school's website---"Our school is a Gifted Center for Hispanic Students, offering an accelerated bilingual program in grades 1-8."

This implies that the school is not for neighborhood kids. If so, (if) then the people in the neighborhood wanting to take the school for themselves is sensible enough.
"Open to students living in attendance area for Neighborhood; If space is available, applicants living outside the attendance area may attend. Accepts students citywide for Gifted. Pre-K open to applicants citywide."

"Testing: None required for Neighborhood; Required for Gifted"

Chicago Public Schools : Pulaski (http://www.cps.edu/Schools/Pages/Pulaski.aspx - broken link)

It is very interesting that the school website makes no mention that the school is primarily (or at least is intended/supposed to be) a non-gifted regular neighborhood school for children in the neighborhood (and if space allows for non-gifted children from outside the neighborhood as well) that also has a gifted program for kids outside (as well as in) the neighborhood. But if one looks on the CPS website one will see that the school is exactly that.

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Old 08-23-2009, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Wheaton, Illinois
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It is very interesting that the school website makes no mention that the school is primarily (or at least is intended/supposed to be) a non-gifted regular neighborhood school for children in the neighborhood (and if space allows for non-gifted children from outside the neighborhood as well) that also has a gifted program for kids outside (as well as in) the neighborhood. But if one looks on the CPS website one will see that the school is exactly that.

Perhaps the reason there aren't many neighborhood kids in the school is simply that the local people aren't sending their kids there, and if they did the non local kids would have to leave.
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Old 08-23-2009, 01:30 PM
 
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So it's gentrification when white people are moving into a neighborhood, but racism when they try to send their kids to their neighborhood schools?
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Old 08-23-2009, 02:38 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Perhaps the reason there aren't many neighborhood kids in the school is simply that the local people aren't sending their kids there, and if they did the non local kids would have to leave.
I am willing to wager the local people have been increasingly attempting to send their children there the last few years but there is not enough space because the magnet program is taking up too many of the desks and classrooms. Hence the movement to remove the Magnet program from the school.
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Old 08-24-2009, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Nort Seid
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Another factor that could be relevant is that some/many of the current students had older siblings who went there before their family moved out of the area - CPS gives priority to siblings for enrollment, which does seem like a humane thing.
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Old 08-24-2009, 06:10 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Another factor that could be relevant is that some/many of the current students had older siblings who went there before their family moved out of the area - CPS gives priority to siblings for enrollment, which does seem like a humane thing.
why? what's the big deal about making sure all your kids end up at the same school? sure, it makes it easier to drop off/pick up everyone if all the kids go to the same school, but then again, it would be even easier to do so if the school was close by. I don't understand why it's necessary for siblings to attend the same school to the point that siblings get possible priority over someone more qualified or, in this case, a neighborhood child. is your kid really going to suffer in school if big brother/big sister isn't there?
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