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Ahhh, the "three friends" gambit...Sorry, but the יה is pronounced ya, with the a pronounced with a schwa....The ו is pronounced as oo and the final ה as a schwa....
The three friends are just an example that basinbg anything on a modern semetic language speaker is of no real value when discussing the OT and NT pronunciation.
Y Ya or Ye
H Ho or He (The H in the middle of a word takes a vowel and the most common is "O' though I or E can be used)
W Wah or Weh
H Silent at the end of a word.
Just my opinion but I think the vital point is that one use the pronunciation of God's name that is the closest possible to one's language and as an English speaker Jehovah suits me fine and it's not just made up.
Ancient Jews would combine names with an abbreviation of God's name (theophoric names). There are basically two types: 1) Those that begin with the first 3 consonants of the Tetragrammaton (YHV or YHW) yielding names such as Yehonathan, Yehoash, Yehoshaphat, etc and pronounced with the "YEHO" sound and 2) Those names that end in yah or yahu.
If one accepts the name Jesus then one should be open to accept Jeho or Yeho as God's name because the name Jesus is a theophoric name which means Jehovah is salvation. In Hebrew it would be Yeshua which is an alternative form of YEHOshuah. Today nobody knows 100% how Jesus and his friends pronounced his name. Yet we accept Jesus or less commonly Yeshua as the Son of God's name and though the pronunciation differs it does NOT change the nature of the Son of God.
The Bible does NOT give preeminence to one language or translation.
Strong's Concordance indicates the pronunciation of God's name as Ye ho vaw (in English Jehovah).
Modern day scholars are indicating that the Tetragrammaton was likely pronounced with three syllables not two so while "Yaweh" is used by some it may not be the closest of the pronunciations of God's name as some advocated in the past. (George W Buchanan, "How God's Name Was Pronounced" Biblical Archaeology Review Mar./Apr. 1995 Volume 21 Number 2; page 30. Gerard Gertoux, "The Name of God Yehowah Its Story"
Of interest is the quote from Professor C. Perrot at Institut Catholique de Paris whowrote the following to professor Gertoux (mentioned above): "Your arguments are very pertinent, but it would be hard to come back without yielding to Jehovah's Witnesses." So maybe some avoid using the name because they fear getting associated with the religion of Jehovah's Witnesses. But if you really respect the God of the Bible, his Name, and what it represents, you will not allow such a fear to prevent you from using it.
The three friends are just an example that basinbg anything on a modern semetic language speaker is of no real value when discussing the OT and NT pronunciation.
Y Ya or Ye
H Ho or He (The H in the middle of a word takes a vowel and the most common is "O' though I or E can be used)
W Wah or Weh
H Silent at the end of a word.
The vav, ו, did not have a vee sound in Ancient Hebrew it was pronounced waw...the vee sound was made employing the beyt ב, which was the soft sound of beyt being without the dot in the middle...so, it would be Ya-hwa...
The vav, ו, did not have a vee sound in Ancient Hebrew it was pronounced waw...the vee sound was made employing the beyt ב, which was the soft sound of beyt being without the dot in the middle...so, it would be Ya-hwa...
Look again.
Yes the V sound was a later change and I did not use it for Hebrew, as was the "H" sound. The J and V are used in English translations.
YHWH is a 4 consonant word with the final consonant "H" silent. Thus your version would actually be acceptable as:
Ya-Ho (or He) Wa, The middle "H" always takes a vowel when within the middle of a word and is a separate consonant.
So we get, based on grammar and commonalty with theophoric names:
Yahowa (Or Yehowa) and in English Jahova ( Or Jehova) a 3 consonant word as even Clement of Alexandria knew in the 2nd century when the Hebrew language was still spoken.
Goodness gracious - the vast majority of Biblical scholars with degrees in ancient languages all agree that the most likely pronunciation and vocalization of the full name is Yah-weh. Shortened forms can take the forms Ya-hu or Yah.
If you're suggesting something else, you're in a strict minority, and probably not anywhere near qualified to even suggest a pronunciation in the first place.
Please, get with the times and consult some actual competent works that reflect the consensus view. This is not a difficult subject, unless you make it into one. Why is this is so difficult for some of you? You obviously have access to the internet, so you have plenty of avenues of investigation into how the name is seen in the consensus view, yet some of you seem to latch onto the worst possible sites possible concerning the subject, either out of date or written by those not competent enough to even speak on the matter.
I have a question, then who was talking to Moses here,(Exo. 6:3), if it wasn't the God of the Israelites? If you read up it says... “Then the LORD said unto Moses, Now shalt thou see what I will do to Pharaoh: for with a strong hand shall he let them go, and with a strong hand shall he drive them out of his land. And God spake unto Moses, and said unto him, I am the LORD. So You're wrong when you say this was an Angel. True!... before Moses the Israelites DIDN'T know God's name. But God was NOW making it known.
Lord,God ,Father are title, NOT a names, and there were and still are MANY gods ,(1Cor. 8:5 For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, as there be gods many, and lords many). But there was ONLY one TRUE GOD, and he gave his name for a reason. Which was to separate him for those FALSE gods. So SCRIPTURES, shows Moses DIDN'T make that name up. Of course we KNOW, Jehovah,(English), or even Yahweh,(Hebrew), isn't the TRUE pronunciation. Still this is the name Jehovah wanted us to know.
Also understand scriptures NEVER said Adam physically seen the ALMIGHTY God. Jehovah just made his presents to Adam known, they HEARD his voice (Gen. 3:8). sorry but you're wrong, and you show NO scriptures proving God God basically became a spirit being. Of course Jesus called him Father, because that's what Jehovah is to Jesus, his Father. Also he's showing respect by NOT calling him by name. But just did!, know Father's name. because he gave it to those who were already worshiping this God. But just didn't know his name ,(John 17:6 I have manifested, thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word).
And again, sorry, but Jehovah God was ALWAYS HERE, Jesus spoke from Heaven on this at Pro.8:22-29...“The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old. Lord in capital letter, replaced the name Jehovah, by the way. Here it's CLEARLY Jesus, who says he was here with his Father, BEFORE, man or ANYTHING was created. Jesus said...”Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him”).
So I NOT only believe Jesus, but Moses and ANY other man who wrote the books of the bible. Because it's through Jehovah God, NOT of themselves. The these words came from ,(2Pet.1:20,21 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost). peace
Jehovah, Jesus, king of kings, lord of lords,
All these are the names of god.
YHWH(Jehovah is Gods name---Jesus is Gods son---not God.
Jesus,Paul, Peter, John--100% in agreement---Jesus has a God just like we do--his Father=Jehovah----- (John 20:17,Rev 3:12---2Cor 1:3, 1Cor 8:6, 1Cor 15:24-28--1Peter 1:3--Rev 1:6= truth.)
One must be doing this daily---or they will lose--John 4:22-24
Goodness gracious - the vast majority of Biblical scholars with degrees in ancient languages all agree that the most likely pronunciation and vocalization of the full name is Yah-weh. Shortened forms can take the forms Ya-hu or Yah.
If you're suggesting something else, you're in a strict minority, and probably not anywhere near qualified to even suggest a pronunciation in the first place.
Please, get with the times and consult some actual competent works that reflect the consensus view. This is not a difficult subject, unless you make it into one. Why is this is so difficult for some of you? You obviously have access to the internet, so you have plenty of avenues of investigation into how the name is seen in the consensus view, yet some of you seem to latch onto the worst possible sites possible concerning the subject, either out of date or written by those not competent enough to even speak on the matter.
Actually most scholars do not accept Yahweh, it just became popular less than 200 years ago. I do consult with scholars who give the actual rules of grammar and consistently use them, not apologust or some Jewish "scholars" who want to hide the proper pronunciation. Consensus is meaningless or we all better be Catholic as they are the majority denomination and ... well that is nonsense.
Find a scholar who does not translate
"Jehoram" as above .... and the Jeho is the first two syllables of God's name. If we sued Hebrew it would be Yeho. Add the final spoken consonant and we get ... Yehowah. Simple Hebrew.
Maybe you could show what in Hebrew grammar is wrong with that? Not just opinion from someone, but the actual known rules and examples.
Yes the V sound was a later change and I did not use it for Hebrew, as was the "H" sound. The J and V are used in English translations.
YHWH is a 4 consonant word with the final consonant "H" silent. Thus your version would actually be acceptable as:
Ya-Ho (or He) Wa, The middle "H" always takes a vowel when within the middle of a word and is a separate consonant.
So we get, based on grammar and commonalty with theophoric names:
Yahowa (Or Yehowa) and in English Jahova ( Or Jehova) a 3 consonant word as even Clement of Alexandria knew in the 2nd century when the Hebrew language was still spoken.
Goodness gracious - the vast majority of Biblical scholars with degrees in ancient languages all agree that the most likely pronunciation and vocalization of the full name is Yah-weh. Shortened forms can take the forms Ya-hu or Yah.
If you're suggesting something else, you're in a strict minority, and probably not anywhere near qualified to even suggest a pronunciation in the first place.
Please, get with the times and consult some actual competent works that reflect the consensus view. This is not a difficult subject, unless you make it into one. Why is this is so difficult for some of you? You obviously have access to the internet, so you have plenty of avenues of investigation into how the name is seen in the consensus view, yet some of you seem to latch onto the worst possible sites possible concerning the subject, either out of date or written by those not competent enough to even speak on the matter.
The qamats is not pronounced as ay, it is an ah sound...
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