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Old 12-12-2010, 11:25 PM
 
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Yes I did...deal with it. You use whatever you want, I'll stick to Scripture.
No you didn't. If you think you did, post it and only that verse, so I can see what verse you THINK is saying only to use scripture.
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Old 12-13-2010, 06:53 AM
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Yes I did...deal with it. You use whatever you want, I'll stick to Scripture.
I love it, Verna. Thanks for the honest answer. At least you didn't give us the side step...completely. So for that, my hat's off to you. But alas, your approach is still wrong. But your answer almost makes up for it. lol.

Luther could have used that slogan: Protestantism: We believe what we want to believe. Deal with it!
It's kind of catchy.
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Old 12-13-2010, 08:39 AM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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You still didn't list a verse saying only to use the bible. You once again gave only YOUR OPINION.
You're right, she posted a few scriptures, none of which even remotely implied that the Bible is to be the source of all truth for Christians. Of course, we know why should didn't...
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Old 12-13-2010, 09:43 AM
 
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The "Book" which the writer "read" must have existed before he could quote it...it must have come from "Some Higher Authority"...Selah...


...Our faith in doctrine is not established until we have a perfect conviction that God is its author.


In Christ's love...and prayerfully in His truth,
Verna.
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Old 12-13-2010, 01:44 PM
 
Location: Oregon
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It has not degraded . . . it has been improved by enlightened educated interpretation "rightly DIVIDING the word" instead of blindly adhering to ancient interpretations under the veil of ignorance.
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And if "rightly DIVIDING the word" is interpreting scripture as what you want it to say, so much the better!

That's the joy of private interpretation!
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Old 12-13-2010, 02:58 PM
 
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People that claim the title "Christian" trust the Bible for the only source because we trust God.

1 Peter 1:25
but the word of the Lord stands forever.” And this is the word that was preached to you.

Whoever claims that for whatever reason that God's Word (for whatever reason) is \ became corrupted and that further revelations are still being needed are false.

1 Corinthians 15:2
By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain.

Galatians 1:8
But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned!

The NT boks relate the life, death and resurrection of Jesus. The books of the OT and NT provide all that is needed for salvation. They recount the founding, growth and the obstacles of the churches established by the Apostles.
The Apostles in their live time was already combating the notion of other people claims that they too also are sources of God's revelations\ prophecies.

NIV 2 Thessalonians 2:1b-2
"we ask you, brothers not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by some prophecy, report or letter supposed to have come from us,"


Those who come offering another gospel or other sources of the truth God reveals that they will be eternally damned. Paul puts it in the past tense.


Galatians 1:8-9
But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned!

As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned!

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Old 12-13-2010, 04:38 PM
 
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And if "rightly DIVIDING the word" is interpreting scripture as what you want it to say, so much the better!

That's the joy of private interpretation!
Your efforts here in the forum are clearly anti-Christ in nature . . . promoting and defending a rejection of Christ. That clearly places you in the adversary's camp . . . so nothing you say has an real impact on Christians who listen to Jesus and His Holy Spirit within. God has "written in our hearts" all that we need to know and the Comforter (Holy Spirit) guides us from within to the truth or falsity of any doctrine presented to us. Anything that appeals to and resonates with our negative human emotions is false and evil, period. There is no private interpretation that can make appeals to our negative human emotions good, period.
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Old 12-13-2010, 04:50 PM
 
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Yes I did...deal with it. You use whatever you want, I'll stick to Scripture.
What do you call Scripture? Where did you get it? How did you decide it is "Scripture"?
Whose canon, which Bible?
Bible Study: Which Bible? Whose Canon?
Do you believe Ellen White was a prophet of God and do you read her writings as "scripture"? -Just wondering on that one, because you come here teaching seventh day Sabbath keeping for Gentiles, I think.

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Old 12-14-2010, 09:20 AM
 
Location: Oregon
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Your efforts here in the forum are clearly anti-Christ in nature . . . promoting and defending a rejection of Christ. That clearly places you in the adversary's camp . . . so nothing you say has an real impact on Christians who listen to Jesus and His Holy Spirit within. God has "written in our hearts" all that we need to know and the Comforter (Holy Spirit) guides us from within to the truth or falsity of any doctrine presented to us. Anything that appeals to and resonates with our negative human emotions is false and evil, period. There is no private interpretation that can make appeals to our negative human emotions good, period.
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What you really mean is that I don't agree with you when you are in error,right?

Instead, I believe:

"Test everything, hold fast to that which is true," (reject error). Paul

"Now that I am a man I have put away the things of a child." Paul

"You shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free." John

Does that make me "anit-Christ"?
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Old 12-14-2010, 01:08 PM
 
Location: Oregon
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Twin Spin posted:

NIV 2 Thessalonians 2:1b-2
"we ask you, brothers not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by some prophecy, report or letter supposed to have come from us,"

RESPONSE:

Actually, this refers to Paul's claim about the return of Jesus during Paul and his follower's lifetime. Since it didn't happen, a follower of Paul had to pretend that Paul hadn't really written that.

However, 2 Thes 4:15 clearly states:
"Indeed, we tell you this, on the word of the Lord, that we who are alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, 3 will surely not precede those who have fallen asleep."

Paul was wrong.



Galatians 1:8-9
But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned!

As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned!

RESPONSE:
Yes, Paul disputed the gospel of the original followers of Jesus, the Jerusalem community. He insisted that everyone believe his gospel even though it contradicted Jesus on some points.
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