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Can you please explain your post?
Are people here telling you that we are not saved by grace?
Blessings (and relax!),
brian
Yes .... and some do so without realizing it. It's more broad than just one person\sect ect. But to expand on it unfortunatly takes more than just one-liner sound bites.
The wolf's message has the capacity to adapt itself just enough to make the true message useless. It's purpose is to snare the unsuspecting, the weak and vunerable. Its literally a spiritual Venus fly trap.
A wolf in sheeps clothing can make a believer look like a faker and then turn on the believer and have a following of others in wolfs clothing to aid in the distruction of a believers witness. Hope this makes sence Twin.
Yes .... and some do so without realizing it. It's more broad than just one person\sect ect. But to expand on it unfortunatly takes more than just one-liner sound bites.
The wolf's message has the capacity to adapt itself just enough to make the true message useless. It's purpose is to snare the unsuspecting, the weak and vunerable. Its literally a spiritual Venus fly trap.
Jesus specifically said that of all the Father had given him, he would lose NOTHING. Also that no one can snatch the sheep from out of his hand. I believe Jesus.
Jesus specifically said that of all the Father had given him, he would lose NOTHING. Also that no one can snatch the sheep from out of his hand. I believe Jesus.
Heartsong
Me too Heartsong, I prefer to believe what Jesus said, and to get all up in arms about something you have no control over is not the Christian way and it says that one is not trusting the Lord and His Word.
A wolf in sheeps clothing can make a believer look like a faker and then turn on the believer and have a following of others in wolfs clothing to aid in the distruction of a believers witness. Hope this makes sence Twin.
Me too Heartsong, I prefer to believe what Jesus said, and to get all up in arms about something you have no control over is not the Christian way and it says that one is not trusting the Lord and His Word.
That's right Ilene...Jesus says 'go ahead follow whatever\whomever you feel like'
His warning is for a very good reason...it can and does happen.
Luke 21:8
He replied: “Watch out that you are not deceived.
For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am he,’ and, ‘The time is near.’ Do not follow them.
You know why Jesus says just the opposite, because
Matthew 24:5
For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Christ, ’ and will deceive many."
Matthew 24:11
many false prophets will appear and deceive many people.
Yes .... and some do so without realizing it. It's more broad than just one person\sect ect. But to expand on it unfortunatly takes more than just one-liner sound bites.
The wolf's message has the capacity to adapt itself just enough to make the true message useless. It's purpose is to snare the unsuspecting, the weak and vunerable. Its literally a spiritual Venus fly trap.
That is usually done by tarring the image of who he is. Jesus made it so clear who he was and IS, you would have to be blind to miss it. I was.
That's right Ilene...Jesus says 'go ahead follow whatever\whomever you feel like'
His warning is for a very good reason...it can and does happen.
Luke 21:8
He replied: “Watch out that you are not deceived.
For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am he,’ and, ‘The time is near.’ Do not follow them.
You know why Jesus says just the opposite, because
Matthew 24:5
For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Christ, ’ and will deceive many."
Matthew 24:11
many false prophets will appear and deceive many people.
That's not what I was saying and you know it. Of course we are to heed Jesus' warnings, we are to be wary so as not to be deceived. You are subtly (but not really) hinting that UR is the culprit of your rant, and that could not be further from the truth.
We're not stupid and we know exactly how you feel about UR and that's what your OP is about. UR and the believers in it are not the problem and you need to realize that. Do some research and maybe you'll see that we are very much Christians and teach that Jesus Christ is the ONLY WAY to salvation and that we still believe there is a price to be paid for unbelief.
You've been told all of this before yet you refuse to see the light. Jesus was warning about REAL threats to Christianity such as idol worship and devil worshiping and those claiming to be Him. Anyone who is IN Christ Jesus will not be fooled by such things.
You really need to calm down about UR and learn about it instead of thinking it is the enemy. It's NOT.
Yes .... and some do so without realizing it. It's more broad than just one person\sect ect. But to expand on it unfortunatly takes more than just one-liner sound bites.
The wolf's message has the capacity to adapt itself just enough to make the true message useless. It's purpose is to snare the unsuspecting, the weak and vunerable. Its literally a spiritual Venus fly trap.
If it's by grace and grace alone and your works have nothing to do with it... then what's the point of even having the idea of sin?
Seriously, if all it takes is believing to be saved then sinning shouldn't matter. It's not like sinning matters when you're saved, because according to you the only thing required is believing in Jesus.
Creating the idea of sin makes no sense (at least not logically) if you only have to believe to be saved and what you do in this life will ultimately not matter.
You really need to calm down about UR and learn about it instead of thinking it is the enemy. It's NOT.
Yes it IS! It is NOT what the Bible teaches (you used to understand that).
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. I was.
