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Old 03-21-2011, 07:32 AM
 
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Without accepting the Bible as the revealed word of God, you have nothing to substantiate that the "inner voice" is, indeed, God's. It's your only legitimate proof.

Just because we may THINK it's God speaking to us doesn't necessarily mean it really is. Remember, there is nothing easier to do than deceive ourselves. Jer 17:9 The heart [is] deceitful above all [things], and desperately wicked: who can know it?

Pro 3:1 My son, forget not my law; but let thine heart keep my commandments:

And, where is that law found? In the Scriptures. Without it, we have no standards, no knowledge of God, no guide to salvation, no hope in Christ, nothing whereby to measure the truth of what our inner voice is telling us. Rejecting the Scriptures is tantamount to rejecting God himself.

Pro 3:5 Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.
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Old 03-21-2011, 07:48 AM
 
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Without accepting the Bible as the revealed word of God, you have nothing to substantiate that the "inner voice" is, indeed, God's. It's your only legitimate proof.

Just because we may THINK it's God speaking to us doesn't necessarily mean it really is. Remember, there is nothing easier to do than deceive ourselves. Jer 17:9 The heart [is] deceitful above all [things], and desperately wicked: who can know it?

Pro 3:1 My son, forget not my law; but let thine heart keep my commandments:

And, where is that law found? In the Scriptures. Without it, we have no standards, no knowledge of God, no guide to salvation, no hope in Christ, nothing whereby to measure the truth of what our inner voice is telling us. Rejecting the Scriptures is tantamount to rejecting God himself.

Pro 3:5 Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.
Do you think a man on a desert island can talk with God? Or does he have to wait for someone to sell him a Bible first?

Blessings,
brian
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Old 03-21-2011, 07:50 AM
 
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Do you think a man on a desert island can talk with God? Or does he have to wait for someone to sell him a Bible first?
Just because you don't hold a Bible in your hands doesn't mean that it is not the word of God. If you are on an island, and don't have a Bible it simply means that you are unfortunate enough to not have the word of God to read. You can still pray though
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Old 03-21-2011, 07:51 AM
 
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It is under attack. When people downplay the Bible by calling is "just a book", and "not the word of God" and "full of contradictions and inaccuracies" etc, they are attacking it, and these attacks have been going on here for some time now.
Again i disagree with you Finn. It's man's, especially christians pre conceived ideas of what it is, that is under attack. Believing it's a historic book is attacking it in my opinion, so is believing everything it literal.
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Old 03-21-2011, 07:54 AM
 
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Yep, the OP is so right, God speaks ONLY to the heart and not through His word......

A true testimony and a good example in how God speaks directly to the heart......

Not long ago a young mother with her young children with her was driving along on a busy road approaching a stop light, in her direction in traveling the light was red for her to stop, yet she continued to drive right through it causing an awful collision with many involved, killing one, hurting many !
Latter as they investigated and found that her car was in perfect running condition, brakes and so forth were working properly..... asked her why she ran the red light, her response was, "God told her to do it"..... hmmmm, yes interesting just listen to that voice in your heart because it's God guiding you.....

And another good example of God speaking directly to the heart are those in whom strap bombs on them selves or load their vehicles up with bombs and walk or drive into a heavy populated areas and let the bombs go off.... hurting and killing many because God has told them to be a human sacrifices for Him......

I am sorry but this OP is so far from being God sent just like those situations above were !!
The message is very dangerous one. Especially when an individual continues to tell people that the word of God is not true..... and to listen to God speak to you heart only and that He will not use His word to speak to you but speaks directly to the heart and to listen to that voice instead.....!!

Yep, the OP is right not everyone in whom claims to be a Christian is a Christian..... or speaks for God.... the concept that is written in the OP proves that !!!
And one doesn't have to be a rocket scientist to discern that..... !!!
Thank you for your post, CM!
You bring up a very very important question: which is the Voice of God?

Certainly, a voice which contradicts God's voice is devilish and antichrist.
A person who wishes to act on impulse should know that the Spirit of God is not impulsive. If you hear a voice telling you to do something impulsive (such as run a light), you need to recognize that it is not the voice of God.

(But many Christians, who don't want to learn to hear God's voice, just sit with their Bibles all day, and think that God isn't talking to them at all.)

Your second example is also good: is setting off bombs God-like?

Funny thing, the Christian Zionists applaud the use of bombs against Arabs! And they aren't hearing any voices at all!! (well, voices of the devil/flesh, yes.)

So as you have correctly pointed out, and since we have brothers in the faith who have been blessed to be able to write letters to us telling us that "the fruit of the Spirit is LOVE, PEACE, JOY etc", then we can certainly discern that setting off bombs is NOT Godly at all.

Sounds to me like you are learning to discern, CM!
And that discernment is what we need--- not just more Bible studies, but actually hearing God's Voice within us, alive, today.


Blessings,
brian
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Old 03-21-2011, 08:03 AM
 
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Just because you don't hold a Bible in your hands doesn't mean that it is not the word of God. If you are on an island, and don't have a Bible it simply means that you are unfortunate enough to not have the word of God to read. You can still pray though
And hear God speak to you.
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Old 03-21-2011, 08:03 AM
 
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Again i disagree with you Finn. It's man's, especially christians pre conceived ideas of what it is, that is under attack. Believing it's a historic book is attacking it in my opinion, so is believing everything it literal.
Is the Bible the word of God? Yes, or no?
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Old 03-21-2011, 08:06 AM
 
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And hear God speak to you.
Yes, when people pray, they connect with God. No one argued otherwise, nor does it take anything away for the Bible being the word of God.
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Old 03-21-2011, 08:09 AM
 
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Is this yet another thread trying to minimize the scriptures usefulness towards salvation?
Scriptures are useful to teach, but they cannot replace God speaking within you.

Does the Bible save? NO. It is GOD who saves man, by drawing him, opening his heart, giving him a heart of flesh to replace the heart of stone.

No bible study will do this. It may indicate the Spirit, but it is not the Spirit.

Blessings,
brian
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Old 03-21-2011, 08:12 AM
 
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Thank you for your post, CM!
You bring up a very very important question: which is the Voice of God?

Certainly, a voice which contradicts God's voice is devilish and antichrist.
A person who wishes to act on impulse should know that the Spirit of God is not impulsive. If you hear a voice telling you to do something impulsive (such as run a light), you need to recognize that it is not the voice of God.

(But many Christians, who don't want to learn to hear God's voice, just sit with their Bibles all day, and think that God isn't talking to them at all.)

Your second example is also good: is setting off bombs God-like?

Funny thing, the Christian Zionists applaud the use of bombs against Arabs! And they aren't hearing any voices at all!! (well, voices of the devil/flesh, yes.)

So as you have correctly pointed out, and since we have brothers in the faith who have been blessed to be able to write letters to us telling us that "the fruit of the Spirit is LOVE, PEACE, JOY etc", then we can certainly discern that setting off bombs is NOT Godly at all.

Sounds to me like you are learning to discern, CM!
And that discernment is what we need--- not just more Bible studies, but actually hearing God's Voice within us, alive, today.


Blessings,
brian
BUT, how does one know that the voice they hear whether it be an impulse or not, is God or the antichrist ???

How does one know the voice your hearing is contradicting God ??
That young woman really thought she heard the voice of God telling her to do that in her heart......

How does one discern it is God that is speaking to them..... because the human bombers believe they are hearing God speak to them and wanting them to sacrifice their lives for Him ?
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