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Ever notice God never mentioned "Hell" to Adam and Eve if they broke His law in the Garden?
God never mentioned "Hell" to Cain for killing his brother?
Ever notice that God never mentioned "Hell" to any of the ante-deluvians? Noah never preached on it to try to get the dwellers of earth into his ship.
Why is it that the word "Hell" never once left God's lips for thousands of years?
Do you think it is fair to those possibly billions of people in the Old Testament that when they are brought to judgment God is all of a sudden going to spring it on them: "Oh, umm, I forgot to tell you a little something prior to you dying in your sins . . . umm, you have to go to a place called Hell for eternity where you will writhe and scream in agony in flames. Sorry, it was just a little oversight on My part."
P.S. "Hell" is never once mentioned in all the Bible, yet, you'd think by some evangelists or rather "bad-newsists" that hell was on every page of the Bible.
Sheol in the Old Testament, sometimes mistranslated "Hell" in some bibles is just the grave.
Hades is just the Greek translation of Sheol in the Old Testament so that is a moot point.
Gehenna, sometimes mistranslated "Hell" in the Old and New Testament is just a trash dump to the south of Jerusalem where the Jews offered their children to Molloch in fire. Later it was used to burn trash and offal of the city. In the New Testament during the 1000 years it will be re-instituted as a trash dump and used to burn up the bodies of already dead criminals and trash.
Tartarus is just a place of caverns.
The only place close to Hell is the Lake of Fire but for humans this is just death . . . unconscious death.
So if a place called Hell really does exist, why was God silent on it all these many thousands of years? Why all the secrecy?
Ever notice God never mentioned "Hell" to Adam and Eve if they broke His law in the Garden?
God never mentioned "Hell" to Cain for killing his brother?
Ever notice that God never mentioned "Hell" to any of the ante-deluvians? Noah never preached on it to try to get the dwellers of earth into his ship.
Why is it that the word "Hell" never once left God's lips for thousands of years?
Do you think it is fair to those possibly billions of people in the Old Testament that when they are brought to judgment God is all of a sudden going to spring it on them: "Oh, umm, I forgot to tell you a little something prior to you dying in your sins . . . umm, you have to go to a place called Hell for eternity where you will writhe and scream in agony in flames. Sorry, it was just a little oversight on My part."
P.S. "Hell" is never once mentioned in all the Bible, yet, you'd think by some evangelists or rather "bad-newsists" that hell was on every page of the Bible.
Sheol in the Old Testament, sometimes mistranslated "Hell" in some bibles is just the grave.
Hades is just the Greek translation of Sheol in the Old Testament so that is a moot point.
Gehenna, sometimes mistranslated "Hell" in the Old and New Testament is just a trash dump to the south of Jerusalem where the Jews offered their children to Molloch in fire. Later it was used to burn trash and offal of the city. In the New Testament during the 1000 years it will be re-instituted as a trash dump and used to burn up the bodies of already dead criminals and trash.
Tartarus is just a place of caverns.
The only place close to Hell is the Lake of Fire but for humans this is just death . . . unconscious death.
So if a place called Hell really does exist, why was God silent on it all these many thousands of years? Why all the secrecy?
Because there is no such place....as it is taught today.
There is no such place, true.
The origins of Hell probably sprang up in Roman times, here is an interesting article The Origin of Hell-Fire in Christian Teaching
A blend of Ancient Greek, Persian, and of course Egyptian mythology coupled with the fact that during the dark ages, when Christianity had to be administered and enforced in order to survive, the concept of Hell made for a good scare tactic. The Church leaders would tell the masses "Convert and join us or suffer eternal punishment in a lake of fire". Sadly, that is something that still is in use today, especially amongst Christian Fundamentalists and evangelicals who chose God over Satan for fear of hell. The focus of this religion is Hell and the Avoidance of it, not of Love , Peace or Enlightenment. Not a concept we need for the 21st century, but a testament to the power of fear and myth in religion.
Sadly, when religion has to be administrated and enforced, it has already failed as a viable philosphy or healthy way of life. I can think fo two major ones off hand that fit that category and need to just fade away..... If a religious philosophy is helpful and true to the individual, then it would not require authoritarian leadership to force a certain line of thinking onto the followers.
Ever notice God never mentioned "Hell" to Adam and Eve if they broke His law in the Garden?
God never mentioned "Hell" to Cain for killing his brother?
Ever notice that God never mentioned............
Even the Jews back then had somewhat of a belief about hell....ask a Jew where is Hitler?
God rained down fire and brimstone upon the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah because He hates sin furthermore this was a metaphor of God's judgment
Genesis 19:24
24 Then the Lord rained down burning sulfur on Sodom and Gomorrah—from the Lord out of the heavens.
The apostacies the Jews committed when they sacrificed their own children in the fires for the god Molech that angered God, this valley was later declared by the Jews as defiled and unclean all the more defiling it by casting bodies of criminals in the fire. This same valley is known as Gehenna; a garbage dump where something or someone judged unwanted was cast into, where the fires always burned. This valley represented separation and lostness.
2 Kings 16:3 3 He walked in the ways of the kings of Israel and even sacrificed his son in the fire, following the detestable ways of the nations the Lord had driven out before the Israelites.
2 Chronicles 33:6 6 He sacrificed his sons in the fire in the Valley of Ben Hinnom, practiced sorcery, divination and witchcraft, and consulted mediums and spiritists. He did much evil in the eyes of the Lord, provoking him to anger.
2 Kings 23:10
10 He desecrated Topheth, which was in the Valley of Ben Hinnom, so no one could use it to sacrifice his son or daughter in the fire to Molech.
Last edited by Fundamentalist; 01-28-2010 at 07:59 AM..
Ever notice God never mentioned "Hell" to Adam and Eve if they broke His law in the Garden?
God never mentioned "Hell" to Cain for killing his brother?
Ever notice that God never mentioned "Hell" to any of the ante-deluvians? Noah never preached on it to try to get the dwellers of earth into his ship.
Why is it that the word "Hell" never once left God's lips for thousands of years?
Do you think it is fair to those possibly billions of people in the Old Testament that when they are brought to judgment God is all of a sudden going to spring it on them: "Oh, umm, I forgot to tell you a little something prior to you dying in your sins . . . umm, you have to go to a place called Hell for eternity where you will writhe and scream in agony in flames. Sorry, it was just a little oversight on My part."
P.S. "Hell" is never once mentioned in all the Bible, yet, you'd think by some evangelists or rather "bad-newsists" that hell was on every page of the Bible.
Sheol in the Old Testament, sometimes mistranslated "Hell" in some bibles is just the grave.
Hades is just the Greek translation of Sheol in the Old Testament so that is a moot point.
Gehenna, sometimes mistranslated "Hell" in the Old and New Testament is just a trash dump to the south of Jerusalem where the Jews offered their children to Molloch in fire. Later it was used to burn trash and offal of the city. In the New Testament during the 1000 years it will be re-instituted as a trash dump and used to burn up the bodies of already dead criminals and trash.
Tartarus is just a place of caverns.
The only place close to Hell is the Lake of Fire but for humans this is just death . . . unconscious death.
So if a place called Hell really does exist, why was God silent on it all these many thousands of years? Why all the secrecy?
Even the Jews back then had somewhat of a belief about hell....ask a Jew where is Hitler?
God rained down fire and brimstone upon the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah because He hates sin furthermore this was a metaphor of God's judgment
Genesis 19:24
24 Then the Lord rained down burning sulfur on Sodom and Gomorrah—from the Lord out of the heavens.
The apostacies the Jews committed when they sacrificed their own children in the fires for the god Molech that angered God, this valley was later declared by the Jews as defiled and unclean all the more defiling it by casting bodies of criminals in the fire. This same valley is known as Gehenna; a garbage dump where something or someone judged unwanted was cast into, where the fires always burned. This valley represented separation and lostness.
2 Kings 16:3 3 He walked in the ways of the kings of Israel and even sacrificed his son in the fire, following the detestable ways of the nations the Lord had driven out before the Israelites.
2 Chronicles 33:6 6 He sacrificed his sons in the fire in the Valley of Ben Hinnom, practiced sorcery, divination and witchcraft, and consulted mediums and spiritists. He did much evil in the eyes of the Lord, provoking him to anger.
2 Kings 23:10
10 He desecrated Topheth, which was in the Valley of Ben Hinnom, so no one could use it to sacrifice his son or daughter in the fire to Molech.
Hi Fundamentalist,
The scriptures you bring up do not prove that God told anyone about Hell in the Bible.
How do you equate fire and brimstone raining down on Sodom and Gomorrah as God warning anyone of Hell?
Why didn't God tell those Sodomites about Hell? or have Jonah tell those Ninevites about Hell? Surely he had a perfect opportunity.
Why didn't God warn Saul about Hell by his being so unfaithful?
Why didn't God ever warn Israel about Hell if they broke His law? Rather than warn them about Hell He told them they would only get the curses of the law IN THEIR LIFETIME.
Why did God never reveal so important a subject (if it is true) to the writer of Ecclesiastes who wrote so much about death?
Hell is the place/condition of your soul (darkness). Thats the only place it exists. To someone pure of heart, hell does not exist. To someone who is evil, hell exists.
Even the vilest of sinners in their own darkness can become filled with the light of God.
It's so important to teach people of Love and not anything that is negative.
Hell is the place/condition of your soul (darkness). Thats the only place it exists. To someone pure of heart, hell does not exist. To someone who is evil, hell exists.
Even the vilest of sinners in their own darkness can become filled with the light of God.
It's so important to teach people of Love and not anything that is negative.
Hell is here and now in the lives of those who don't have the light....once the light enters, the darkness disappears. If only more people understood what Jesus tried to teach us....the "spiritual meanings" of the words Jesus tried to impart to us.
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