Would you reject God if... (testimony, Revelation, belief, Jesus Christ)
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Nothing to disagree with there . . . But absolutely nothing we know about Jesus, His life, His teachings, His Love for us ALL, and His death could ever in any way be used to infer that He would ever countenance even the existence of a Hell of eternal torment . . . NOTHING! So defending and supporting such an evil concept is completely Un-Christian.
I think it would be pretty stupid for any of us to "reject God" because we didn't like how He did things.
Stupid or not, many people do just that. They want freedom from God and eventually they get it. C. S. Lewis said, "I willingly believe that the damned are, in one sense, successful, rebels to the end; that the doors of hell are locked on the inside."
Stupid or not, many people do just that. They want freedom from God and eventually they get it. C. S. Lewis said, "I willingly believe that the damned are, in one sense, successful, rebels to the end; that the doors of hell are locked on the inside."
Well as much as I like CS Lewis, he got that one wrong, because Jesus as a set of keys that can open up anything even the heart of most rebellious, and the gates of the grave pfft no problem.
That's a great question. Naturally, there are people who have never even heard the name "Jesus" so, then what? People always used to say, "What about the pygmy tribes in Africa who've never heard of Jesus?"
God covers that in scripture.
Every person is accountable to God whether or not they've heard of Jesus. Romans 1:20 says that God has very clearly revealed Himself in nature. And in Ecclesiastes 3:11, it says that God has revealed Himself in people's hearts. But, when you read on the next few verses in Romans 1: 21-23, it says that the problem is that people are sinful and we reject this knowledge of God. Both what we're told of Him and what we see of Him in nature.
It's God's grace that allows us to overcome this and learn how miserable life is without Him. (verses 24-32.)
Even before Jesus entered the picture in the New Testament, the Old Testament says in Deuteronomy 4:29, “But if from there you seek the LORD your God, you will find him if you look for him with all your heart and with all your soul.” This verse teaches an important principle -- everyone who truly seeks after God will find Him. If a person truly desires to know God, God will make Himself known.
So, the debate over the fairness of God sending someone to hell who never had the opportunity to hear the gospel of Christ is without any valid points. People are responsible to God for what God has already revealed to them. The Bible says that people reject this knowledge, and therefore God is just in condemning them to hell.
If it's assumed that those who never hear the gospel are granted mercy from God, then it would make more sense to make sure that the gospel is NEVER preached to give every person an excuse. But, that's not how it works. Why run the risk of people possibly rejecting the gospel and condemning themselves when they were previously saved because they had never heard the gospel?
Would it be correct to say, then, that you believe that acknowledging the existance of God is essentially the same thing as acknowledging that Jesus Christ is the Savior, sent to redeem mankind from their sins? I see the two as being quite different.
C. S. Lewis said, "I willingly believe that the damned are, in one sense, successful, rebels to the end; that the doors of hell are locked on the inside."
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Originally Posted by pcamps
Well as much as I like CS Lewis, he got that one wrong, because Jesus as a set of keys that can open up anything even the heart of most rebellious, and the gates of the grave pfft no problem.
Actually, I believe C.S. Lewis was right, but that the number of individuals who choose Hell over Heaven will be miniscule. I do mean miniscule, and I do mean to imply that the choice will be theirs. As much as I believe that Jesus Christ wants to see every one of God's children return to His presence someday, I do not believe He will force us. I believe that He will do everything possible to pursuade even the worst of humanity to accept His grace, and I believe that in the end, the vast, vast majority will. The fact that the Bible speaks of one sin that will not and cannot be forgiven either in this life or the next indicates to me that there will be a few who, like Lucifer, are so rebellious and full of hatred for God that they will willingly choose to spend eternity apart from Him.
Actually, I believe C.S. Lewis was right, but that the number of individuals who choose Hell over Heaven will be miniscule. I do mean miniscule, and I do mean to imply that the choice will be theirs. As much as I believe that Jesus Christ wants to see every one of God's children return to His presence someday, I do not believe He will force us. I believe that He will do everything possible to pursuade even the worst of humanity to accept His grace, and I believe that in the end, the vast, vast majority will. The fact that the Bible speaks of one sin that will not and cannot be forgiven either in this life or the next indicates to me that there will be a few who, like Lucifer, are so rebellious and full of hatred for God that they will willingly choose to spend eternity apart from Him.
Well He is the greatest persuader of all time, there is none that have gone so far that they are not capable of being found.The only reason I ever believed was due to him persuading me. He knows exactly what to say and do to persuade us, His word that draws us is always in season and on time. Now if you have better news than that Kat, I would like to hear it. I'm all ears
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