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Old 11-29-2011, 12:28 PM
 
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[quote=sschulz;21885644]Hi everyone As someone already pointed out the word used for day in Genesis was "yom" which can mean day but also can mean "time period"
so instead of "and the evening and the morning were the first day." could very well read " and the evening and the morning were the first time period."

The Bible and science do not contradict each other. God created everything, including the laws that run our universe. Man misinterprets the Scriptures and they seem to contradict but they don't

The scriptures are not literal they are spiritual and to be understood properly they must be read with spiritual eyes and that is only possible if God opens our eyes to the truth.

Want another spiritual truth? Adam and Eve were not the first people on earth and no where does the Scriptures say that. It does say that "there was no man to till the soil" So God made one with his own hands and breathe into him and he became a living soul.

I Believe them to be the first two human beings , simply because they put the whole human race under Divine Punishment by their's actions.

That is also why Cain worried that someone may kill him because there were other people and that is also why God marked him so they would know him.

The Bible says that Adam and Eve produced many children both male and female and they intermarried and produced yet more people. Adam and Eve lived around 1,000 years give or take a whole lot of people could've existed when CAIN killed ABEL

When God said "let us make man in our image." He was saying that he was going to change man into the very image of himself and that is the process we are now and have been undergoing. When God is done we will be "born in the family of God" and will be the image of our Father.[/quote]

If men and women already existed when GOD made ADAM he wouldn't have to take EVE from ADAM side.
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Old 11-30-2011, 06:29 AM
 
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Hi everyone As someone already pointed out the word used for day in Genesis was "yom" which can mean day but also can mean "time period"
so instead of "and the evening and the morning were the first day." could very well read " and the evening and the morning were the first time period."

The Bible and science do not contradict each other. God created everything, including the laws that run our universe. Man misinterprets the Scriptures and they seem to contradict but they don't

The scriptures are not literal they are spiritual and to be understood properly they must be read with spiritual eyes and that is only possible if God opens our eyes to the truth.

Want another spiritual truth? Adam and Eve were not the first people on earth and no where does the Scriptures say that. It does say that "there was no man to till the soil" So God made one with his own hands and breathe into him and he became a living soul.

I Believe them to be the first two human beings , simply because they put the whole human race under Divine Punishment by their's actions.

That is also why Cain worried that someone may kill him because there were other people and that is also why God marked him so they would know him.

The Bible says that Adam and Eve produced many children both male and female and they intermarried and produced yet more people. Adam and Eve lived around 1,000 years give or take a whole lot of people could've existed when CAIN killed ABEL

When God said "let us make man in our image." He was saying that he was going to change man into the very image of himself and that is the process we are now and have been undergoing. When God is done we will be "born in the family of God" and will be the image of our Father.[/quote]

If men and women already existed when GOD made ADAM he wouldn't have to take EVE from ADAM side.
Hi Heartsong I know most people believe Adam and Eve were the first people that existed and if they were then all the fossil remains that have been found are false and they are not. If you remember Cain worried about being killed before Adam and Eve had any more children, Seth was born to replace Able. so why worry about people who did not yet exist. Also why would God have to mark Cain against his own brothers and sisters who would know him.

The other people were brought forth from the earth like the animals but Adam was created with God's own hand and Eve was brought out of him, they were the first people created directly by God's hand. and they are our first parents, we are descended from them.
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Old 11-30-2011, 06:15 PM
 
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Hi Heartsong I know most people believe Adam and Eve were the first people that existed and if they were then all the fossil remains that have been found are false and they are not. If you remember Cain worried about being killed before Adam and Eve had any more children, Seth was born to replace Able. so why worry about people who did not yet exist. Also why would God have to mark Cain against his own brothers and sisters who would know him.

The other people were brought forth from the earth like the animals but Adam was created with God's own hand and Eve was brought out of him, they were the first people created directly by God's hand. and they are our first parents, we are descended from them.

Genesis 3:20 tells us that "And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all the living." We all are descendants of Adam and Eve.

The Bible mentions that Seth was born after Abel was killed; however, the Bible does not tell us how many brothers and sisters were born after Cain and Abel.

Why would Cain need to be marked so he would not be killed by strangers? He was marked so that he would not be killed by his siblings, who obviously would have been upset by him killing their brother.
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Old 06-04-2014, 08:21 PM
 
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Sorry to bump this old thread.

But I was looking for how fundamentalists explain the differences in humans.

We are different in so many ways...skin black, white, brown, red, or yellow, round to almond shaped eyes, black/brown/blond/red hair, lip shapes, pointed to flat to wide noses, experience diseases differently, pygmys to Tutsis in height, etc.

If fundamentalists believe that:

1. We are all descended from Adam and Eve.

2. All but Noah's family (you and your sons and your wife and your sons’ wives with you) were wiped out in the flood.

3. We were all created in God's image and we did not evolve.

How come we are so different in different parts of this earth? What am I missing?
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Old 06-04-2014, 08:32 PM
 
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Sorry to bump this old thread.

But I was looking for how fundamentalists explain the differences in humans.

We are different in so many ways...skin black, white, brown, red, or yellow, round to almond shaped eyes, black/brown/blond/red hair, lip shapes, pointed to flat to wide noses, experience diseases differently, pygmys to Tutsis in height, etc.

If fundamentalists believe that:

1. We are all descended from Adam and Eve.

2. All but Noah's family (you and your sons and your wife and your sons’ wives with you) were wiped out in the flood.

3. We were all created in God's image and we did not evolve.

How come we are so different in different parts of this earth? What am I missing?
Adaptation! When man was scattered throughout the world certain traits helped them to survive in the environment in which they loved. As those with beneficial traits survived and breed those traits became dominate in that region of the world. Same as happened with animals. It is very simple. You see all the traits were present in all people for a time. Some traits became dominate in some people and while others became dominate in others. As people with like dominate traits mated they produced offspring with the same dominate traits however the dominance of those traits were now passed on from both parents rather than only one.
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Old 06-04-2014, 08:36 PM
 
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Sorry to bump this old thread.
But I was looking for how fundamentalists explain the differences in humans.
They don't. Explanations are not their forte . . . blind belief in the Bible is.
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Old 06-04-2014, 10:47 PM
 
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Adaptation! When man was scattered throughout the world certain traits helped them to survive in the environment in which they loved. As those with beneficial traits survived and breed those traits became dominate in that region of the world. Same as happened with animals. It is very simple. You see all the traits were present in all people for a time. Some traits became dominate in some people and while others became dominate in others. As people with like dominate traits mated they produced offspring with the same dominate traits however the dominance of those traits were now passed on from both parents rather than only one.
Sorry, but you have just made the case for evolution. Which I don't believe fundamentalists agree with. Right?

Another problem fore believers is that these changes and relocations would have had to happen in a few thousand years. Is that possible?
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Old 06-04-2014, 11:54 PM
 
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Sorry to bump this old thread.

But I was looking for how fundamentalists explain the differences in humans.

We are different in so many ways...skin black, white, brown, red, or yellow, round to almond shaped eyes, black/brown/blond/red hair, lip shapes, pointed to flat to wide noses, experience diseases differently, pygmys to Tutsis in height, etc.

If fundamentalists believe that:

1. We are all descended from Adam and Eve.

2. All but Noah's family (you and your sons and your wife and your sons’ wives with you) were wiped out in the flood.

3. We were all created in God's image and we did not evolve.

How come we are so different in different parts of this earth? What am I missing?
I do not think that any creationist is naïve to say that there isn't a very limited "evolving" within a set defined species which occurs through the breeding within each specific species.

What we say is that a dog has always been a dog \ guppies always been guppies \ humans always been humans. So when God had people migrate to other parts of the world, God too enabled particular genetic traits that would come to individualize the races.
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Old 06-05-2014, 12:07 AM
 
Location: In a little house on the prairie - literally
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I do not think that any creationist is naïve to say that there isn't a very limited "evolving" within a set defined species which occurs through the breeding within each specific species.

What we say is that a dog has always been a dog \ guppies always been guppies \ humans always been humans. So when God had people migrate to other parts of the world, God too enabled particular genetic traits that would come to individualize the races.
Why are there no fossil kangaroos in the middle east?

Did the two just hop to it and went right down to Australia?

How did they get across the ocean?
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Old 06-05-2014, 01:11 AM
 
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Why are there no fossil kangaroos in the middle east?
but that's not a question that haunts any creationist.

Rather the question that haunt's the evolutionists is .... why are there no fossils that are in the process of evolving other than artist's drawings and Darwin's Barnum and Bailey Tent Show.

I was just to the Montana Dinosaur Museum and there was not one fossil that was in a transition phase ... not one. ... of course with the exception of the pretty artist's retentions and the sign board

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Did the two just hop to it and went right down to Australia?
Given enough time I'm sure those who buy in to the Darwin's Barnum and Bailey Tent Show when it's in town will pay the extra nickel to see an artist's rendition of Sponge Bob's theory and believe it as long as it doesn't undermine Darwin's audience.

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How did they get across the ocean?
probably the same way any other mammal did that is unique to a particular area of the world.

We have a simple explanation ... evolutionists are clueless without their diagrams.
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