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Old 12-15-2011, 06:59 AM
 
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Your own data proves that less people are tying the knot (significantly less), and as for divorces in last 12 months, - people are delaying divorce because of the recession.
I think you are absolutely right that the tough economic times are preventing a good number of divorces. I've read several articles that indicate that people just can't afford to get divorced these days. And there are more and more couples who skip the divorce (and the lawyers fees) and come to a mutual agreement to be "separate" while still living together. There are "civil marriages" between heterosexuals -- kind of like being college roommates.
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Old 12-15-2011, 07:03 AM
 
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I think you are absolutely right that the tough economic times are preventing a good number of divorces. I've read several articles that indicate that people just can't afford to get divorced these days. And there are more and more couples who skip the divorce (and the lawyers fees) and come to a mutual agreement to be "separate" while still living together. There are "civil marriages" between heterosexuals -- kind of like being college roommates.
Divorce is expensive, and at this time many simply cannot afford to leave and find a new house etc.

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A growing body of research indicates that some couples are choosing not to get divorced or are delaying severing ties because of the troubled economy.
Other unhappy couples are choosing to continue living under the same roof even while going through a divorce.
A 2009 poll by the Institute for Divorce Financial Analysts found that 68 percent of analysts had clients who could not afford to get divorced because of economic woes related to the recession.
Same could be true with getting married. Are people waiting for better economy? I don't know, but you would think living expenses drop when you get married. That was the case with me at least, going from who houses to one. Having kids is another thing, as that can be very expensive.
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Old 12-15-2011, 02:32 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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I don't know why any Christian would be surprised by these statistics. (Who knows how accurate any of them are, they're a guess at best, but they do reflect what's going on, just look around.) What many tell me is happening in Churches is reflected in the pews. The 20-30 year olds are abandoning church in droves. If you look at the typical population in the average church, you see a lot of gray hair, and not many young people, not many babies or young children. Baptisms and confirmations are way down. Average attendance and membership is declining rapidly. The younger generation is abandoning God for the most part, so why be surprised when they opt for rejecting marriage and instead shacking up. Then they can easily split whenever they want.
I look at it this way.

People no longer stay in unfulfilling, miserable marriages just to please "God".

As far as children are concerned.....are they really better off being raised by parents who stay together, even though they can no longer stand to be around each other?
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Old 12-15-2011, 03:51 PM
 
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I look at it this way.

People no longer stay in unfulfilling, miserable marriages just to please "God".

As far as children are concerned.....are they really better off being raised by parents who stay together, even though they can no longer stand to be around each other?
A man is commanded by scripture to love his wife. If he calls himself a Christian there is no basis for him bailing on that marriage just because he doesn't feel happy at the moment.
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Old 12-15-2011, 04:39 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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A man is commanded by scripture to love his wife. If he calls himself a Christian there is no basis for him bailing on that marriage just because he doesn't feel happy at the moment.
I wasn't aware that love could be forced.
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Old 12-16-2011, 07:20 AM
 
Location: Northern Wisconsin
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Annie, if people don't want to stay married, that's just fine with me. If they have no interest in God, then God certainly gives them that freedom. But this is posted in a Christianity forum, so you get a Christian perspective on things. And if people just want a life of bed hopping God also gives them that freedom, but just keep in mind, they will not go to heaven. If they repent, they can be forgiven, but if they die without repentance, there is no hope for salvation.

1Co 6:9 Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders 1Co 6:10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

"If it is hard for the righteous to be saved, what will become of the ungodly and the sinner?" 1 Peter 4.
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Old 12-16-2011, 07:32 AM
 
Location: arizona ... most of the time
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Why is this in the religion forum. Anyone that studied scriptures knows that a marriage to God is the union of the flesh (the sexual act). I'm sure the report is concerned with certificate marriage recognized by the state.
Not so.... that a marriage to God is the symbolic resemblance of the commitment that Jesus has for the church of believers.
Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her to make her holy, cleansing her by the washing with water through the word,
God compares the relationship of believers in the OT to marriage:
Isaiah 54:5
For your Maker is your husband— the LORD Almighty is his name— the Holy One of Israel is your Redeemer; he is called the God of all the earth.

and also the infidility of people towards God:
Jeremiah 3:20
But like a woman unfaithful to her husband, so you have been unfaithful to me, O house of Israel,” declares the LORD.


I would have you read Hosea 2 on your own .. too long to post here.

The union of the flesh (the sexual act) that marriage bed was intended for... the husband and wife. It is was this "family" structure and enviroment that is the best for children's welfare that was intended by God when he joined man and woman in the Garden of Eden.

The further away people go from understanding the importance and significance of marriage is to the moral fabric and the God pleasing nature in which God intended for people to live... the farther away from the truth people become.

The report is a indication which way people are spiritually. Jeremiah 3:20
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Old 12-16-2011, 07:46 AM
 
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Not so.... that a marriage to God is the symbolic resemblance of the commitment that Jesus has for the church of believers.
Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her to make her holy, cleansing her by the washing with water through the word,
God compares the relationship of believers in the OT to marriage:
Isaiah 54:5
For your Maker is your husband— the LORD Almighty is his name— the Holy One of Israel is your Redeemer; he is called the God of all the earth.

and also the infidility of people towards God:
Jeremiah 3:20
But like a woman unfaithful to her husband, so you have been unfaithful to me, O house of Israel,” declares the LORD.


I would have you read Hosea 2 on your own .. too long to post here.

The union of the flesh (the sexual act) that marriage bed was intended for... the husband and wife. It is was this "family" structure and enviroment that is the best for children's welfare that was intended by God when he joined man and woman in the Garden of Eden.

The further away people go from understanding the importance and significance of marriage is to the moral fabric and the God pleasing nature in which God intended for people to live... the farther away from the truth people become.

The report is a indication which way people are spiritually. Jeremiah 3:20



Great post, Twin.
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Old 12-19-2011, 08:30 AM
 
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I wasn't aware that love could be forced.
Love isn't a feeling. If you realize that you can choose to love. A man is commanded to love his wife. I can honestly say that my feelings for my wife have grown though, because of my commitment to her.
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Old 12-19-2011, 08:57 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Love isn't a feeling. If you realize that you can choose to love. A man is commanded to love his wife.
That may be true. But when one spouses neglects to choose to love the other, it's still a choice that breaks the bond of marriage and the neglected partner cannot change that.
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