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In the early years, the Catholics hierarchy was against the reading of scriptures. In that day, to question any dogma was often met with violence. It took Martin Luther to end Catholic monopoly of biblical interpretation yet it can be argued that he did so for political, monetary and not religious reasons. Germany was losing too much wealth to Rome and he used his theses against indulgences to split from the Catholic Church.
Since that day, the Spanish inquisition, and Catholic/Protestant policies have pushes for only the biblical interpretations that have been sanctioned by the various Church hierarchies to be accepted. IOW, they are to control your theosis or apotheosis.
Being a Gnostic Christian, I of course ignore such commands. If you are one of faith then you cannot. You must kowtow to whatever sect you belong to and believe as they believe.
Most Catholics and Protestants I talk to tell me that we are not to judge God. Strange as this condition excludes them of course, as they have judged their God to be good. The rest of us are fine if we agree and since we cannot judge God on our own, we are not allowed to judge anything but good. Judging God as evil is not allowed.
To judge, one needs knowledge first and foremost. Eden shows that God did not want Adam and Eve to have knowledge of good and evil. The early Catholic Church followed suit by burning competing gospels and killing members of other Christian sects that did not convert. Protestant sects and their hierarchies, by insisting that theosis is under their guidance only, also discourage questioning and judging and acquiring knowledge.
“Faith must trample under foot all reason, sense, and understanding.
Reason is a *****, the greatest enemy that faith has.”
Martin Luther
What do the churches fear with a more intelligent population?
Are they afraid that with knowledge, people will stop believing in talking animals and other fantasies, miracles and magic and realize that their faith has no clothes?
Is that why the various Abrahamic cults are not reconciling their doctrinal differences and not seeking knowledge and unification?
A & E were punished for seeking knowledge and becoming as Gods.
The Church punishes any that seek knowledge that does not match Church dogma. True or not.
Just how stupid does the Church want their adherents? Do they want slaves the same way their God does?
As a believer, just how big of a blinder are you willing to wear to follow your Church and God?
How much B S are you willing to eat from your Church hierarchy to maintain the delusion that you believe in an invisible miracle working absentee super God?
What’s with Protestants and Catholics and their hate of knowledge?
DL
Good post!
I believe the Catholic church is starting to come around on this subject. Most Jesuits are amazing academicians and Catholic Universities do not preach religion to the student body.
The Pope invited Stephen Hawkings to the Vatican and accepted the Big Bang Theory with the condition God started the Bang.
The Big bang was first proposed by a Catholic Priest Georges Lamaitre. The mathematical theories of Lemaitre were corroborated by Hubble's observations.
The Pope also accepts Darwin.
The Protestants have many more issues regarding true knowledge.
Are you aware that the Catholic Church was responsible for lay-people getting educated? Back during the Roman period education was reserved only for the rich upperclass. The Catholic Church made it their mission to expand education for everyone and also started the university system and hospitals as we know it.
Are you aware that the Catholic Church was responsible for lay-people getting educated? Back during the Roman period education was reserved only for the rich upperclass. The Catholic Church made it their mission to expand education for everyone and also started the university system and hospitals as we know it.
Nice bit of historical revision on your part.
Monks also preserved knowledge by handwriting books before the invention of the printer.
I believe the Catholic church is starting to come around on this subject. Most Jesuits are amazing academicians and Catholic Universities do not preach religion to the student body.
The Pope invited Stephen Hawkings to the Vatican and accepted the Big Bang Theory with the condition God started the Bang.
The Big bang was first proposed by a Catholic Priest Georges Lamaitre. The mathematical theories of Lemaitre were corroborated by Hubble's observations.
The Pope also accepts Darwin.
The Protestants have many more issues regarding true knowledge.
Thanks and I agree.
Yet the rank and file Catholic is not far from fundamentalism as they must, to some extent, have to believe in a literal and historic figure.
I have also been banned enough times out of Catholic sites to know this as a fact. They are literalists and have hurt their thinking along with the fundamentals.
Are you aware that the Catholic Church was responsible for lay-people getting educated? Back during the Roman period education was reserved only for the rich upperclass. The Catholic Church made it their mission to expand education for everyone and also started the university system and hospitals as we know it.
Nice bit of historical revision on your part.
Where those schools before or after the Spanish Inquisition?
Did they push creationism or evolution in those schools?
Regards
DL
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Yet the rank and file Catholic is not far from fundamentalism as they must, to some extent, have to believe in a literal and historic figure.
I have also been banned enough times out of Catholic sites to know this as a fact. They are literalists and have hurt their thinking along with the fundamentals.
Regards
DL
I will say that you will find plenty militants in Catholicism, Atheism, Judaism, and within the Protestant and Muslim folks.
Nice bit on yours. Your anscestors have always been the same, even when they were pagan. religion is but a funny looking hat, the fashions
change. The Catholic Church educated no one unless they fed themselves first. What Rome had was freemarked private education. As Voltaire
said, all the Jesuits taught him was Latin and the Stupidities.
Nice bit on yours. Your anscestors have always been the same, even when they were pagan. religion is but a funny looking hat, the fashions
change. The Catholic Church educated no one unless they fed themselves first. What Rome had was freemarked private education. As Voltaire
said, all the Jesuits taught him was Latin and the Stupidities.
And Voltaire became a great philosopher with that Jesuit education.
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