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Old 03-29-2012, 01:08 PM
 
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I don't like to argue. As it is sporting in my family.

"The Lamb's Wife" is a quote of Scripture.

The Bride 0f Christ is not.

The False Doctrine of The Bride 0f Christ teaches that
if one believes in Jesus and keeps themselves pure.
The Bridegroom will take them into The Wedding. This is a falsehood, Jesus said so. - Matt.25
It's just a feel good sermon for paid head patting Preachers.

With sermons after sermon to sell
on how they're getting all of us ready for The Bridegroom.

Here a truth Verna,
those continually getting 'Ready' for The Bridegroom, are not 'Ready'.

Pastors are busy sending His sheep onto every battle field of the world.

While blaming them, for killing their wounded.
Instead of leading them to still waters and green pastures.

Some are always getting ready for a War.
Some are Ready for a Wedding.
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Old 04-01-2012, 09:14 AM
 
Location: New England
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I find we concern ourselves far to much with what we believe, instead of being what we believe.

Love never fails [never fades out or becomes obsolete or comes to an end]. As for prophecy ([d]the gift of interpreting the divine will and purpose), it will be fulfilled and pass away; as for tongues, they will be destroyed and cease; as for knowledge, it will pass away [it will lose its value and be superseded by truth].
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Old 04-07-2019, 08:25 AM
 
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- Love remains for me,
Prophecy hasn't passed away for me,
Tongues hasn't passed away for me,
and Knowledge hasn't passed away for me either.
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Old 04-11-2019, 10:19 AM
 
Location: South Jersey
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We have traded our Kingdom-Crown for an Earthly Veil.

Professing to be The Bride 0f Christ.
Which is only an Interpretation Invatation from Pastors.
Giving every virgin waiting on The Bridegroom
entry into The New Jerusalem, Wedding.

The title phrase The Bide 0f Christ is not
a quote of Scripture anywhere in The Bible.

It is a made up phrase so everyone who believe in Christ
will receive entry into New Jerusalem.
It helps fill pews. But not New Jerusalem!

Not everyone who believes in 'The Lamb' will be "The Lamb's Wife".

Jesus said so. - Matt.25
The one who believes has eternal life (John 6:47).

Generally, we should use such simple, straightforward statements as that one to interpret the more ambiguous passages, and not vice versa.

In Matthew 25:12, Jesus tells the five foolish virgins, "Truly I tell you, I don't know you."

This is the same thing that He will tell false believers, and He states in Matthew 7:23, "I never knew you." There's no suggestion that Jesus once knew you and now longer does. Rather, He will say, "I NEVER knew you." Indeed, Jesus tell us that of all that the Father has given to Him, He will lose NONE of us. (John 6:39; John 10:28-30). The parable of the lost sheep also illustrates this truth.

Both of these verses in Matthew suggest that there are self-professing Christians who are not truly saved. Therefore, they don't know the Lord in the first place. They appear Christian on the outside, but they don't have an actual relationship with the Lord. Maybe they are "cultural Christians," etc.

The parable Jesus tells in Matthew 7:21-23 in general speaks to some of the characteristics of false believers. We should note that these verses follow the parable concerning true and false prophets described in Matthew 7:15-20, where Jesus tells us that we will know true and false prophets by their fruits. Jesus also tells us, quite plainly, that false prophets are like "ferocious wolves" in the inside--so there is something very fundamentally different about the heart of a false Christian versus a true one, even if they tend to appear similar on the outside. On the inside, it's not a subtle difference.

Also look at what the false believers will protest, as described in Matthew 7:22. They will say they prophesied in the name of Jesus, drove out demons in His name, and performed miracles in His name. What are all these things? They're works. Once again, we see, you can't attain salvation through works. It is ONLY by grace through faith (Ephesians 2:8-9). Otherwise, we have to ask whether we really believe in Jesus and His finished (John 19:30 - "it is finished") work on the Cross, if you think you must do good works to be saved.

No one can come to Jesus unless the Father compels that person to come to Jesus (John 6:44). Salvation is a matter of unconditional election. https://www.gotquestions.org/uncondi...-election.html

Thus in 2 Peter 1:10, believers are taught to "make every effort to confirm" our "calling and election."

If you're producing good fruit, that's a good sign--although its absence does not necessarily mean you're unsaved, because is salvation is through faith, not works. Only God knows the heart (and His elect, in whom He sovereignly creates salvific faith, sufficient to accomplish our justification through Christ's imputed righteousness).
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Old 04-11-2019, 12:02 PM
 
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If you're producing good fruit, that's a good sign--although its absence does not necessarily mean you're unsaved, because is salvation is through faith, not works. Only God knows the heart (and His elect, in whom He sovereignly creates salvific faith, sufficient to accomplish our justification through Christ's imputed righteousness).
The only thing imputed is that which you do yourself, whether it is good or bad is up to you.
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Old 04-11-2019, 12:19 PM
 
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The only thing imputed is that which you do yourself, whether it is good or bad is up to you.
You speak damnable falsehoods. Without Christ's imputed righteousness, no one can enter the kingdom of God! To deny this basic fact (penalty for our sin imputed upon Christ and His righteousness imputed upon us) is to deny the Gospel.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10:

"Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God."

Consider that in conjunction with Romans 3:23 - "all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God." This means no one can inherit the kingdom of God through their own righteousness. Everyone deserves to go to hell. Salvation through Christ is a free gift from God.

Romans 3:20-23 -

"Therefore no one will be declared righteous in God’s sight by the works of the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of our sin. But now apart from the law the righteousness of God has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. This righteousness is given through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference between Jew and Gentile, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God."


"This righteousness is given through faith" - in other words, it is imputed.
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Old 04-11-2019, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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You speak damnable falsehoods. Without Christ's imputed righteousness, no one can enter the kingdom of God! To deny this basic fact (penalty for our sin imputed upon Christ and His righteousness imputed upon us) is to deny the Gospel.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10:

"Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God."

Consider that in conjunction with Romans 3:23 - "all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God." This means no one can inherit the kingdom of God through their own righteousness. Everyone deserves to go to hell. Salvation through Christ is a free gift from God.

Romans 3:20-23 -

"Therefore no one will be declared righteous in God’s sight by the works of the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of our sin. But now apart from the law the righteousness of God has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. This righteousness is given through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference between Jew and Gentile, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God."


"This righteousness is given through faith" - in other words, it is imputed.
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Old 04-11-2019, 04:44 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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The only thing imputed is that which you do yourself, whether it is good or bad is up to you.
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Originally Posted by snj90 View Post
You speak damnable falsehoods. Without Christ's imputed righteousness, no one can enter the kingdom of God! To deny this basic fact (penalty for our sin imputed upon Christ and His righteousness imputed upon us) is to deny the Gospel.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10:

"Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God."

Consider that in conjunction with Romans 3:23 - "all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God." This means no one can inherit the kingdom of God through their own righteousness. Everyone deserves to go to hell. Salvation through Christ is a free gift from God.

Romans 3:20-23 -

"Therefore no one will be declared righteous in God’s sight by the works of the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of our sin. But now apart from the law the righteousness of God has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. This righteousness is given through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference between Jew and Gentile, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God."


"This righteousness is given through faith" - in other words, it is imputed.
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Mysticism?

A man is responsible for his own thoughts, deeds and actions.
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Old 04-11-2019, 04:48 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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Mysticism?

A man is responsible for his own thoughts, deeds and actions.
Imputed righteousness

Romans 4:5

But to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is credited as righteousness.

2 Corinthians 5:21

He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, so that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.
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Old 04-11-2019, 04:55 PM
 
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Mysticism?
No, Jer, Magic.
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A man is responsible for his own thoughts, deeds, and actions.
And will reap whatever he has sowed and not repented of (corrected and renewed his mind) but he is still "saved as by fire" by what Jesus accomplished.
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