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Whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles in one point, he has become guilty of all.
Very true, but that is not what James is saying nor is it what Jesus was saying when he said Except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
James was saying live by the royal law to avoid bringing yourself under the law of Moses.
Christ Jesus did not become sin, so that you could be justified.
However, you can believe whatever it is you desire to believe.
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Originally Posted by jimmiej
Your view is at odds with the apostles, as I showed you.
You have merely quoted a few verses to support your understanding which is bogus.
If you want to see the Bible for other than what it is (man's perceptions), so be it.
[It] is not something that will make or break me in this life or the next.
What?? How does that verse conflict with what i said?. We serve out of love not duty, we find ourselves in that way by knowing we are loved, and not only that, but greatly loved no matter who you are. Believing you are a sinner or looking upon other to be sinners under condemnation of God, you will never serve out of love, but out of duty to a belief about God.
I have not found that to be the case. We are grateful God has rescued us from the penalty of sin, through Christ, who paid our debt.
You have merely quoted a few verses to support your understanding which is bogus.
If you want to see the Bible for other than what it is (man's perceptions), so be it.
[It] is not something that will make or break me in this life or the next.
I have not found that to be the case. We are grateful God has rescued us from the penalty of sin, through Christ, who paid our debt.
You still haven't give a scriptural reason why Jesus said our righteousness needed to exceed that of the pharisee, then we would not enter into the kingdom to live by it. You have to accept here what Jesus was saying here or more to the point that unless your concept of righteousness is above and beyond that of the righteousness then you will remain in the same hole they are. The righteousness of God is not one of outward appearance, but one where we see in the unseen everything how it ought to be especially our standing/relationship to God, this frees us from pride, judgement and hypocisy because we see our neighbor how God sees us. If you want to know what sin is, look at the concept the Pharisee had of God, separation, lack and limitation, all 3 cause an appeasement approach to God.
You still haven't give a scriptural reason why Jesus said our righteousness needed to exceed that of the pharisee, then we would not enter into the kingdom to live by it. You have to accept here what Jesus was saying here or more to the point that unless your concept of righteousness is above and beyond that of the righteousness then you will remain in the same hole they are. The righteousness of God is not one of outward appearance, but one where we see in the unseen everything how it ought to be especially our standing/relationship to God, this frees us from pride, judgement and hypocisy because we see our neighbor how God sees us. If you want to know what sin is, look at the concept the Pharisee had of God, separation, lack and limitation, all 3 cause an appeasement approach to God.
::sigh:: Yes, I did, James 2.
Your beliefs are convoluted and difficult to understand. Traditional Christianity make so much more sense. Does your theology have a name or some sort of classification? Is there somewhere I can read about your particular theology?
Your beliefs are convoluted and difficult to understand. Traditional Christianity make so much more sense. Does your theology have a name or some sort of classification? Is there somewhere I can read about your particular theology?
You took what Jesus said completely out of context then took another verse that had nothing whatsoever to do with what Jesus said or meant, why would you do that ?. Read the verses before the James verse you quoted to understand what he was saying, it had absolutely nothing to do with what Jeus said, bugger all, not a saugage.
Jesus is the only perfect human. Since we cannot attain such status in the flesh, His righteousness is imputed to all who believe Him.
2 Corinthians 5:21
“For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.”
Simple yet profound.
Your bible says this and having been made perfect he did become to all those obeying him a cause of salvation age-during.
He became perfect.
Difficult one to swallow, hey?.
His righteousness exceeded that of the Pharisee, which opened the door to the kingdom to him to enter, which opened the doors to the secrets of the kingdom. which opened the doors to live by the power of the kingdom
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