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Acts 5:
Ver 32 And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him.
Christ states plainly that we are to keep the Commandments. If He knew He was going to die and do away with the Commandments He would not have told this young man to keep them in order to have eternal life. Christ gave this instruction that was valid then and is still valid today.
Matthew 19:
Ver 16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
Ver 17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
Ver 18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Ver 19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Christ listed 5/last six Commandments which are summarized by one of the two great Commandments to love your neighbor as yourself. This implies that you are to keep the Ten Commandments when you consider the other scriptures concerning loving God which are defined by the first four of the 10 Commandments and summarized in the first great commandment to love God.
Here, the apostle John wrote this years later pointing out that God's Saints keep the Commandments of God:
Revelation 14:
Ver 12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
You are teaching error! If you have God's Holy Spirit, you will have the power to keep God's Commandments and God's Spirit will correct you when you are about to disobey and instead of being led by the physical law you will be led by God's Holy Spirit to obey God which will allow you to keep the Commandments of God.
Christ in you will keep the Commandments just as He did when He was on this earth.
Gal 2:
Ver 20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
So, you are basically telling people to reject God's Commandments! That's wrong!
Your worry about the forced keeping of the Sabbath I believe is incorrect. The forced accepting of the Mark of the Beast (Sunday worship, Christmas and Easter) will cause persecution/martyrdom in the end. Read Revelation about the Mark of the Beast (Roman Empire).
All I did was show the Scripture that shows the error here. Why was there no direct refutation to the quotations provided? Because there is none?
The 10 Commandments are Just, Holy, etc.. All believers should abide in obedience to God's Law. God's Law is much more than just the 10 commandments. We have an entire new testament filled with instructions in righteousness. 9 of the commandments were expanded in their meaning to include the internal man in intent not just actions. No one will be Justified. << Justification is the key word. We are Justified by Faith in Jesus Christ. Justification by Faith in Jesus Christ Liberates believers from the demands of the Law. Under the New Covenant and New Law of Messiah, the Sabbath is not an obligation to "Keep". No believer can put another under condemnation for not observing the Sabbath.
The Mark is not about a day of the week. It's about an identity to a person. Who are we going to choose - Jesus Christ the innocent or Barabbas the Murderer. The World is going to choose Barabbas.
A lot of my research points to this "christ consciousness". The mandatory Evolution of mankind into the Aquarian "New Age" and New man. Transhumanism, cloning, DNA manipulation. Awakening with the "Ascended Masters".. Along those lines.. the first lie to mankind was that it could live forever being some type of god.
There is a lot of evidence that this "Sabbath keeping" as the Mark of the Beast is the Enemy attempting to proclaim prophecy as fulfilled. Lure people to identify the wrong Anti-Christ, and receive the Wrong Jesus in the wrong Millennium.
Okay, just how many of your 613 do you pick and choose for yourself?
None of them. I am not Jewish so they don't apply to me. The point I'm trying to get over to you, obviously unsuccessfully, is that, unless YOU are Jewish, they don't apply to you either.
You refer to yourself as a 'spiritual Jew' yet you only want to subject yourself to ONE of the 613 laws that Jews are subject to. WHY? You can't have it both ways tt. You are either a Jew (spiritual or physically) in which case the Mitzvot laws apply to you or you are not a Jew, in which case the laws do not apply to you. What you are saying is... 'I am a 'spiritual' Jew but I only want to abide by one of the laws that Jews are subject to.
You have also not answered my question to you regarding 'resting equipment' that you consider unnecessary. I very much seems to me that you are only prepared to follow the command to 'rest' as long as you are not too inconvenienced by it.
Maybe, I can come back in the future (when I retire).
Back to work...
Dear tthttf, It has been a blessing to have had you here...I do hope that you do not leave for long...as we desperately need children of God who walk in truth to speak up here on this forum...please do find your way back...your support in His truth is vital to the lives of so many faithfull seekers of Christ.
May God bless you mightily.
In the love of Christ,
Your spiritual sister.
Verna.
Dear tthttf, It has been a blessing to have had you here...I do hope that you do not leave for long...as we desperately need children of God who walk in truth to speak up here on this forum...please do find your way back...your support in His truth is vital to the lives of so many faithfull seekers of Christ.
May God bless you mightily.
In the love of Christ,
Your spiritual sister.
Verna.
You support someone who claims that he keeps the 'Sabbath' holy and that he has nothing to do with 'unnecessary equipment' on the Sabbath. He obviously thinks that his computer is 'vital' equipment because he posted on this forum on 10th of September 2011,...which was a Saturday....the 'Sabbath' according to him....the day when all unnecessary equipment should be turned off and the day spent in reflection and worship.
You support someone who claims that he keeps the 'Sabbath' holy and that he has nothing to do with 'unnecessary equipment' on the Sabbath.
Yes, I sure do.
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Originally Posted by Rafius
He obviously thinks that his computer is 'vital' equipment because he posted on this forum on 10th of September 2011,...which was a Saturday....the 'Sabbath' according to him....the day when all unnecessary equipment should be turned off and the day spent in reflection and worship.
Yes, he does...and he is correct.
The computer is vital equipment if used to proclaim the truth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
Paul....Peter and every other apostle spent the Sabbath proclaiming the same.
I won't be spending any more time arguing with you Rafius...you have heard the truth...do with it what you will.
When will some people realize there is more to the bible than the 10 commandants. The sermon on the Mount has many commands that Christ commands us to do that is not in the 10 commandments.
Turn the other cheek, love your enemy, go the extra mile...etc which falls under Love One another.
Sexual immorality isnt in the 10 commandments other than adultery, but live that lifestyle and see where you end up.
Read Romans 13:1-7 and you will see that the bible says to obey the law of the land. God is the creator of government, so when we willfully break the law then we become guilty of sinning against God. We are commanded to submit to our government and keep the law of the land.
Like ive said before we all see a 55 MPH sign and willfully go 10-15 or 20 over the limit, not due to a emergency, but because it is convenient for us. When you see a cop, you slow down because you dont want a ticket you willingly chose to drive that fast and the cops give you a ticket because you are breaking the law. I can give man other examples how we dont obey the law of the land as well.
To God sin is sin, so one can be sinning from the 10 commandments, or by not doing what is commanded in the new testament as well. Its either follow the whole book or dont follow it at all, but stop picking and choosing certain parts to make yourself feel better.
When will some people realize there is more to the bible than the 10 commandants. The sermon on the Mount has many commands that Christ commands us to do that is not in the 10 commandments.
Turn the other cheek, love your enemy, go the extra mile...etc which falls under Love One another.
Sexual immorality isnt in the 10 commandments other than adultery, but live that lifestyle and see where you end up.
Read Romans 13:1-7 and you will see that the bible says to obey the law of the land. God is the creator of government, so when we willfully break the law then we become guilty of sinning against God. We are commanded to submit to our government and keep the law of the land.
Like ive said before we all see a 55 MPH sign and willfully go 10-15 or 20 over the limit, not due to a emergency, but because it is convenient for us. When you see a cop, you slow down because you dont want a ticket you willingly chose to drive that fast and the cops give you a ticket because you are breaking the law. I can give man other examples how we dont obey the law of the land as well.
To God sin is sin, so one can be sinning from the 10 commandments, or by not doing what is commanded in the new testament as well. Its either follow the whole book or dont follow it at all, but stop picking and choosing certain parts to make yourself feel better.
I agree, great post. I would elaborate further to say that the law of Christ (the teachings of Jesus) are an expansion/explanation/detailed application of the moral law of God (10 commandments). They are not a distinctly separate, arbitrary, new or unrelated set of laws.
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