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Old 08-05-2012, 08:07 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth, Texas
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Speaking as a Christian, why do so many Christians ignore this passage? I know of several who love to gleefully judge others, and do so with great relish, almost as if they enjoy it.
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Old 08-05-2012, 10:44 AM
 
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Human nature, learned behavior, we all have faults and shortcomings, to judge
or look down on any human is not Christ like. I guess it takes longer for some
to understand God watches everything and some are just playing the game.

Pray for them that their eyes be open.
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Old 08-05-2012, 10:54 AM
 
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First of all... in the Bible text it says the enemies of Jesus brought the woman to Jesus to try to trick Him.

The so-called "teachers of the law" [who Jesus said taught their own traditions instead of God's Law]
were always trying to trick Jesus in matters of God's Law. But Jesus kept God's Law perfectly.

God's Law was given to God's People for them to administer in their society.

God's Law requires the testimony of at least TWO witnesses before guilt is established. In the case of
adultery, if guilt is established, BOTH the man and the woman are executed.

That the so-called accusers had not also brought the man to Jesus is very telling.

When the tricksters brought the woman to Jesus, Jesus wrote something in the sand. We don't know
what Jesus wrote, but it was enough to make them run away

We get a hint when Jesus said, let he among you who is without sin cast the first stone. Most people
assume Jesus meant "sin" in general. That makes no sense for as Paul said, all have sinned; thereby
making it impossible for God's People to administer God's Law to whom it was given to administer.
The Law of God does not require this.

The "sin" Jesus references must relate to this specific incident.

The fact that the accusers ran away points to a grave sin that directly relates to witnesses.

Remember... God's Law requires the testimony of at least two witnesses.

God's Law also says that if anyone gives false witness, he is given the same penalty the innocently accused
would have been given... in this case, a false witness would be executed.


The bottom line is this:

Regardless of what Jesus wrote in the sand... regardless of why the woman's accusers ran away...
Jesus followed God's Law perfectly. There were no witnesses left to give testimony, so guilt could not
lawfully be established. Jesus told the woman to go and sin no more [that didn't prove her guilt either,
for as Paul said, we are all sinners.]



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Old 08-05-2012, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Human nature, learned behavior, we all have faults and shortcomings, to judge
or look down on any human is not Christ like. I guess it takes longer for some
to understand God watches everything and some are just playing the game.

Pray for them that their eyes be open.



Jesus said we are to judge righteously not by appearances.

John 7:24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.


The Biblical standard of righteousness is God's Law.


The problem today, in our very liberal perverted secular society,
even Christians have lost the Biblical cultural, moral, legal, historical
perspective that is required to understand Bible verses, and that is
especially true when those verses are taken out of context.



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Old 08-05-2012, 11:37 AM
 
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Who throws stones, anymore, except Palestinians?
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Old 08-05-2012, 11:45 AM
 
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The history the Bible tells, speaks of times when God's people sin [sin is the transgression of God's Law]
but then repent and obey - as in the time of King Josiah when the books of God's Law were accidentally
found in the temple while it was being repaired and Josiah realized the kingdom was sinning and was doomed
unless the people repented and obeyed God's Law.

But it also speaks of times when the people willfully rebel and disobey God.

There are times when people become so apostate... so perverted, so distorted... they are incapable of
repentance and obedience.

Jesus said the end of the age would be like the times of Noah and Sodom, times when the people were
so evil, so reprobate, they were destroyed.




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Old 08-05-2012, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Niflheim
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.... and some are just playing the game.
So true, can not be said enough!
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Old 08-05-2012, 01:55 PM
 
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Those "playing games" and by doing so cause others to err will be held accountable for their role playing.


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Old 08-05-2012, 06:31 PM
 
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Those "playing games" and by doing so cause others to err will be held accountable for their role playing.
Since Almighty God will be holding them accountable . . . why are you trying to stick your nose into it and pretend you are authorized by God to punish them under human laws? That was the whole point of not casting the first stone . . . we are NOT worthy to do so.
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Old 08-05-2012, 08:49 PM
 
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Since Almighty God will be holding them accountable . . . why are you trying to stick your nose into it and pretend you are authorized by God to punish them under human laws? That was the whole point of not casting the first stone . . . we are NOT worthy to do so.
wow!! this was a event that took place many years ago. Sticking your nose into a past event
has no meaning. The whole point Jesus made was that everybody is guilty , judge not lest you
be judged . compassion is key here, as for "human" laws Christians are under grace not bound by law.
Law was created to exposed sin , with out law there is no sin, read up.
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