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Reason I ask is because let's just say someone who has it easy in life becomes a Christian and gets saved.
Then you have someone whose had it very rough in life who doesn't get saved.
How is that fair?
It wouldn't be fair, but that's not how it works. Death is not the final curtain. The choices we make in this life are important -- very important, but as you pointed out, we don't all lead the same lives, have the same backgrounds or personalities. God has therefore provided a means by which every human being who has ever lived will end up having the opportunity to hear, really understand and choose to accept the gospel of His Son Jesus Christ before standing before Him to be judged. For many, the required knowledge will not come during mortality, but during the period of time between death and the resurrection.
Are you saying that God does not give man free will ?
Not quite Pawporri, that the drawing power of the love of God is stronger than any kind of will man possesses. There comes a day when everyone will look upon him who they pierced,be cut to the heart, repent and believe on The Lord Jesus Christ. God's will and word accomplished just like scripture states.
Not quite Pawporri, that the drawing power of the love of God is stronger than any kind of will man possesses. There comes a day when everyone will look upon him who they pierced,be cut to the heart, repent and believe on The Lord Jesus Christ. God's will and word accomplished just like scripture states.
In "Paradise Lost" Milton refers to God as "The Hound of Heaven !" That is somewhat akin to what you have expressed and I comprehend your meaning. He is always "nipping" at our heels.......
IMO, God's love is equal to all men & women, even though the world of the creatures of time & space is not fair. All true love is from God, and man receives this divine affection as he himself bestows this love upon his fellows. Love is dynamic. It can never be captured; it is alive, free, thrilling, and always moving. Man cannot take the love of the father and imprison it in his heart. The Father's love becomes real to mortal man when it passes through that man's personality while he, in turn, bestows that love on his fellow human beings. Thus, LOVE, is God's creation alone which he, in turn, shares with and through his creatures. That circuit comes from the Father, through sons and on to their brothers & sisters. This fraternal affection is the essence of the Supreme.
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What a beautiful, beautiful thing to ponder and think on.
Thank you for sharing that,
peace,
sparrow
Amen! God IS Love. We embrace the Divine when we love.
Not quite Pawporri, that the drawing power of the love of God is stronger than any kind of will man possesses. There comes a day when everyone will look upon him who they pierced,be cut to the heart, repent and believe on The Lord Jesus Christ. God's will and word accomplished just like scripture states.
If God could do that He would, but free will is gift He can not change. Your very poetic but your not facing reality. If God could do what you say then the whole world would be saints by now.
Oh, there will come the last day when every eye of every soul will see Him but for many it will be shame and mourning because they missed out. But many will rejoice at His appearing because the Bride has made Herself ready by the blood of the Lamb and the Word of their Testamony.
But the final note has not yet sounded, so I would rather dwell on the fact that the love of God abounds toward all, as it is written, "He has given a measure of faith to everyone" but they must take advantage of it, open their heart and confess with their mouth that Jesus Christ is Lord.
We'll just have to disagree and not butt heads too much. Have a good evening.
If God could do that He would, but free will is gift He can not change. Your very poetic but your not facing reality. If God could do what you say then the whole world would be saints by now.
Oh, there will come the last day when every eye of every soul will see Him but for many it will be shame and mourning because they missed out. But many will rejoice at His appearing because the Bride has made Herself ready by the blood of the Lamb and the Word of their Testamony.
We'll just have to disagree and not butt heads too much. Have a good evening.
Gary...one day you will awake surprised and be glad.
Gary...one day you will awake surprised and be glad.
You too have a good evening.
We all will be, pcamps . . . we all will be. That is why the glimpses we can get of it are so indescribable and inscrutable . . . but it will be wondrous indeed, my friend.
To make this short and sweet Jehovah God loves all (he's a loving God). He doesn't hate anyone, he might be hurt and dislike your actions, but that's about it.
Ex. Homosexuals - Jehovah don't hate them; he loves them just as he loves everyone else, but he dislike their actions that they're doing.
And it's not just them. It replies to people who's fornicating, raping and killing others, etc.
We all will be, pcamps . . . we all will be. That is why the glimpses we can get of it are so indescribable and inscrutable . . . but it will be wondrous indeed, my friend.
Isn't that what makes it all so wonderful and hopeful? That the best we can imagine isn't even close to what God has waiting for us? How unsearchable are His ways and His judgments are mercy to us, conforming us to His purpose, His wonderful, glorious purpose.
Though we are not all 'one' in everything yet, we can still share a taste of the glorious expectation and hope that await us all at the revealing of the Sons of God. Amen
Reason I ask is because let's just say someone who has it easy in life becomes a Christian and gets saved.
Then you have someone whose had it very rough in life who doesn't get saved.
How is that fair?
Its like almost from the start that God loved the person who had it easy in life and hated the person whose had it rough.
Let's take the story of Jacob and Esau.
Is it fair to say God disliked Esau from the start,while he was in the womb?
Yes, it is easy to say. God can convert ANY heart He so desires. If there was a Heart that God couldn't convert then it would mean that God is inept at persuasion or could only save the righteous.
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