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Old 09-26-2012, 07:42 PM
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I think that the parable of the vineyard workers covers this by telling you that that's just the way it is. However, I think there's a better way to look at it by considering Paul's discussion of spiritual education, which is found in Hebrews.

Paul says that many of us remain at the level of children in our spiritual growth, and I think your question is spiritually childish in that fashion.

Children need the love of their parents, but those children become adults whom learn to cope with the absence of it. That's true whether you come to terms with being a less favored sibling or your parents pass. When you reach a stage of your life that requires that you ask if God loves equally, then maybe you're ready for a more adult spirituality.

I would ask of you: what difference does it make how God treats others? Are you doing right in the eyes of God? Are you living up to what you believe to be the right path?

It's not. Welcome to the real world. It sucks. But would you rather have Matthew and no Paul because Paul was rotten for most of his life, or would you rather benefit from the good works of both when they're on the right path?
How is it a childish question?
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Old 09-26-2012, 07:46 PM
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Its just like some people pray and receive,and others don't.
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Old 09-26-2012, 07:57 PM
 
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How is it a childish question?
Children need the love of their parents, but those children become adults whom learn to cope with the absence of it. That's true whether you come to terms with being a less favored sibling or your parents pass. When you reach a stage of your life that requires that you ask if God loves equally, then maybe you're ready for a more adult spirituality.
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Old 09-27-2012, 05:44 AM
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Ok,but what does that have to do with the question?
I'm not getting any direct answers,its almost as if some are trying to deflect.

If God knew about Esau before he was born,isn't that sort of similiar to predestination?

Also,in the example I gave,how does God expect both the person who had it easy in life and the person whose had it rough to both serve him equally?
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Old 09-27-2012, 05:46 AM
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In your post homogenizer,you raised a good question:
What difference does it make how God treats others?

It makes a big,big difference.
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Old 09-27-2012, 10:08 AM
 
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jerseygal4u,

This may be an obvious question, but what makes you think that God doesn't love everyone equally? (different people answer that question in different ways.) Perhaps if we understand your perspective a little more, that might help.

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Old 09-27-2012, 12:57 PM
 
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Hello folks. Just to keep this on topic, here again is the OP:

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Does he really? I need proof.

Reason I ask is because let's just say someone who has it easy in life becomes a Christian and gets saved.
Then you have someone whose had it very rough in life who doesn't get saved.

How is that fair?


Its like almost from the start that God loved the person who had it easy in life and hated the person whose had it rough.

Let's take the story of Jacob and Esau.
Is it fair to say God disliked Esau from the start,while he was in the womb?
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Old 09-27-2012, 03:56 PM
 
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Does he really? I need proof.

Reason I ask is because let's just say someone who has it easy in life becomes a Christian and gets saved.
Then you have someone whose had it very rough in life who doesn't get saved.

How is that fair?


Its like almost from the start that God loved the person who had it easy in life and hated the person whose had it rough.

Let's take the story of Jacob and Esau.
Is it fair to say God disliked Esau from the start,while he was in the womb?
Yes, God loves everyone equally:
"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son" John 3:16

"He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous." Matthew 5:45

The question of "fair" is not a question but a situation of the insignificant created accusing the infinite Creator and sitting of judgement of Him.

How about applying the response Job got about his "fair" accusation .... Job was told to
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Old 09-27-2012, 07:43 PM
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Oh well,I guess I can't expect to get my question answered.
Still not seeing how its childish to ask questions.
Isn't that what we are supposed to do instead of just jumping into something?
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Old 09-27-2012, 07:48 PM
 
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Its just like some people pray and receive,and others don't.

Just because you pray and ask God for something does not mean you will receive what you pray for. God knows what you need and knows what you want, which is more important in your life, your wants or your needs? Much like a parent, grandparent, guardian of a child, when they ask for something they do not always receive it because the adult in their lives know that it is a want and not something they need. If your child asked you for a toy while in a store but they had just received several toys for gifts a few days ago for their birthday would you say they NEEDED that toy or just WANTED that toy? Would your purchase it for them if you determined it is a want and not a need?
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