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As a Christian, I've always wondered about this...
In the NT, Jesus was crucified, then rose on the third day. We celebrate Good Friday, then Easter on Sunday, two days after, not three. What's up with that?
While it is of absolutely no importance at all and knowing the details does nothing for us, I personally believe Jesus was not buried on Friday. I believe the "Sabbath" that is referred to concerning the time of burial was part of the Passover observance which would not be on a certain day of the week each year. And the "Sabbath" being referred to concerning the Resurrection was the weekly Sabbath from sundown Friday until Sundown Saturday.
As a Christian, I've always wondered about this...
In the NT, Jesus was crucified, then rose on the third day. We celebrate Good Friday, then Easter on Sunday, two days after, not three. What's up with that?
Keep wondering because there are plenty of things to wonder about in the Bible. Keep being skeptical and don't simply take some preacher's word for it, like Herod killed the boys who couldn't walk. That's simply Biblical gymnastics. There's actually no historical evidence that Herod ever decreed any such thing anyway. There will always be apologists who make all sorts of contortions and twists to make the scripture say what they want it to say. Be skeptical, be very skeptical.
As a Christian, I've always wondered about this...
In the NT, Jesus was crucified, then rose on the third day. We celebrate Good Friday, then Easter on Sunday, two days after, not three. What's up with that?
Rome changed the observance of the Passover from the 14th of Nissan to the Easter Sunday observance, just as they changed the Sabbath to a Sunday...
As a Christian, I've always wondered about this...
In the NT, Jesus was crucified, then rose on the third day. We celebrate Good Friday, then Easter on Sunday, two days after, not three. What's up with that?
Hi carterstamp Couple of things to consider. Jesus never said He would be dead for three days. He said that like Jonah was in the belly of the great fish, He would be in the Heart of the Earth. Jesus always spoke in parables.Jonah in the fish was not dead but he was surrounded and unable to get away, Jesus was surrounded by earth ( we are earth) and unable to get away. Remember Jesus was always under the Fathers protection and when they tried to stone him for saying "that before Abraham, I AM, " he was suddenly gone from their midst and they could not find Him.
Second this was a process, Jesus said He would come to the temple and He would be, betrayed, rejected by the priest, turned over to the gentiles and scourged and then slain, then He would be raised. the three days and three nights includes all of that so the count starts at the betrayal.3
Now comes the time of the betrayal, Some say it was when Judas kissed Jesus in the Garden on Thursday night. Some say it was on Tuesday night when Judas agreed to turn Jesus over to the priests, and that started the three days, this was also the night that Jesus said the woman who was anointing him was preparing him for his burial.
So if it was Thursday you have Thursday Friday and Saturday Nights and Friday and Saturday and Sunday days. But is he arose before sunrise on Sunday you can't count that.
How about Tuesday You would have Tuesday Wednesday and Thursday night and Wednesday, thursday and Friday days and Jesus would have been resurrected just after sundown on Friday. Interesting if you read the original Greek it says the women came to the tomb on the sabbaton, which translates as sabbath, but it does not fit the thinking at the time and was translated as the first day of the week. just maybe Jesus was resurrected on the sabbath, after all he was the king of the sabbath and did the Father's work on the sabbath( healed people) And He did say the Father would not let his body see corruption, Maybe that was because Jesus would only be dead a short time and raised before decomposition started. Some thing to think about.
I have looked at it both ways and which ever way you look at it Jesus was in the heart of the earth for three days and three nights.
It's in the understand of counting things. For example, a three day fast wasn't three 24 hour days, necessarily. Let's assume Schmeol began his fast Thursday as 3pm, before sunset. He would have considered to have fasted one day. Now let's assume that Schmeol continuted his fast until Saturday 8pm, after sunset. He would be credited with fasting Thursday, Friday and Saturday, even though he broke his fast Saturday. Now, there are actual examples of this in the history of the kings of Israel, where there are Kings who have served less than a full year, yet the chronicles have him reigning for a year.
If Jesus died on Thursday afternoon and was raised on Sunday (any time after sunset on the Sabbath), then he would be credited with four days in the grave: Thursday (before sunset), Friday (sunset Thursday to sunset Friday), Saturday (sunset Friday to sunset Saturday) and Sunday (anytime after Sunset Saturday). If he died Thursday afternoon and was raised before sunset on Saturday (the Sabbath), then he would have been in the grave 3 days: Thursday (until sunset), Friday (sunset Thursday to sunset Friday) and Saturday (sunset Friday to sunset Saturday). This, however, leaves us with the problem of the grave being empty while it was still dark in the morning, before sunrise. Which means that if 'the first of the Sabbath' means the early morning of the Sabbath, then the Jewish women were breaking the Sabbath by preparing his body that morning, but we see that the reason they didn't do it the day before was because the Sabbath was approaching. So, now we are left with Jesus dying on the cross Friday afternoon and being raised on Sunday: Friday (until sunset), Saturday (sunset Friday to sunset Saturday) and Sunday (any time after sunset on the Sabbath day).
While the Greek of Matthew uses the word sabbaton, it does not necessarily refer to 'the Sabbath.' As we see from Matthew 27:1, it seems awkward to say, "Now after the Sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first [day] of the Sabbath, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary came to look at the grave." This phrase, 'first day of the week' is only used once outside of the Gospel accounts in Acts 20:7, and is used in the same manner as the Gospels. If 'first of the week' means the first (hours) of the Sabbath, then the women were going to the grave in the early morning hours of the Sabbath while it was still dark. This does not actually conflict with Marks account 'when the sun had risen.' The ladies left while it was still dark, but by the time they had arrived at the tomb, the sun was up and the stone rolled away. Either way, if this was the early morning hours of the Sabbath, they were violating the Sabbath Law of doing no work on the Sabbath, and properly preparing a body for burial was definitely work. Besides which, the reason they asked for his body from Pilot was that they need to perform a perfunctory preparation of his body before the Sabbath day that they kept. "Then the returned and prepared spices and perfumes. And on the Sabbath they rested according to the commandment." (Luke 23:56) Even if is was the Sabbath celebration of Passover and Unleavened Bread and not the weekly Sabbath, the command to do no work still applies (Lev. 23:5-8) and they obeyed the commandment of the Sabbath. So the 'first of the week/sabbaton' cannot mean the early morning hours of the Sabbath. Besides, John 19:31 tells us is was a high holy Sabbath, meaning it was not only a weekly Sabbath, but a festival Sabbath as well. There is also the Luke 18:9-18, the parable of the Pharisee and the Publican (tax collector) where the Pharisee boasts "I fast twice a week." I doubt that means that he fasts twice on the Sabbath, perhaps between breakfast and lunch, and then between lunch and supper? It's the same Greek word σάββατον [sabbaton]. No, It must be the first of the week, it's the only translation that actually agrees with the text.
Jesus was crucified on Friday afternoon, was taken down given a perfunctory preparation and placed in the tomb before the High Holy Sabbath came upon them (sunset that same day). Then, the morning after observing the Sabbath, special as it was (possibly the Sabbath of Unleavened Bread), on the first day of the week (Sunday) the women went to the tomb properly prepare Jesus body according to the Jewish custom. He was in the tomb 3 Jewish day, though not 72 hours.
Think about this...It said three days and three nights...If He died towards the evening and had to come down before sunset then where is the third day and third evening?...
Well ... Jesus said "I am the way and the truth and the life" .
Jesus said it, I have no reason not to believe it.
I doubt that the skeptics will find a gotcha point when standing in front Jesus when being judged.
Keep wondering because there are plenty of things to wonder about in the Bible. Keep being skeptical and don't simply take some preacher's word for it, like Herod killed the boys who couldn't walk. That's simply Biblical gymnastics. There's actually no historical evidence that Herod ever decreed any such thing anyway. There will always be apologists who make all sorts of contortions and twists to make the scripture say what they want it to say. Be skeptical, be very skeptical.
You know ... according to some you're not going to have a choice in the matter anyway, either you're going to be UR'ed or you're OSAS.
Well ... Jesus said "I am the way and the truth and the life" .
Jesus said it, I have no reason not to believe it. I doubt that the skeptics will find a gotcha point when standing in front Jesus when being judged.
No doubt...But that does not preclude us from digging in to ascertain actual Truth of things...
Hi carterstamp Couple of things to consider. Jesus never said He would be dead for three days. He said that like Jonah was in the belly of the great fish, He would be in the Heart of the Earth. Jesus always spoke in parables.Jonah in the fish was not dead but he was surrounded and unable to get away, Jesus was surrounded by earth ( we are earth) and unable to get away. Remember Jesus was always under the Fathers protection and when they tried to stone him for saying "that before Abraham, I AM, " he was suddenly gone from their midst and they could not find Him.
Second this was a process, Jesus said He would come to the temple and He would be, betrayed, rejected by the priest, turned over to the gentiles and scourged and then slain, then He would be raised. the three days and three nights includes all of that so the count starts at the betrayal.3
Now comes the time of the betrayal, Some say it was when Judas kissed Jesus in the Garden on Thursday night. Some say it was on Tuesday night when Judas agreed to turn Jesus over to the priests, and that started the three days, this was also the night that Jesus said the woman who was anointing him was preparing him for his burial.
So if it was Thursday you have Thursday Friday and Saturday Nights and Friday and Saturday and Sunday days. But is he arose before sunrise on Sunday you can't count that.
How about Tuesday You would have Tuesday Wednesday and Thursday night and Wednesday, thursday and Friday days and Jesus would have been resurrected just after sundown on Friday. Interesting if you read the original Greek it says the women came to the tomb on the sabbaton, which translates as sabbath, but it does not fit the thinking at the time and was translated as the first day of the week. just maybe Jesus was resurrected on the sabbath, after all he was the king of the sabbath and did the Father's work on the sabbath( healed people) And He did say the Father would not let his body see corruption, Maybe that was because Jesus would only be dead a short time and raised before decomposition started. Some thing to think about.
I have looked at it both ways and which ever way you look at it Jesus was in the heart of the earth for three days and three nights.
It's in the understand of counting things. For example, a three day fast wasn't three 24 hour days, necessarily. Let's assume Schmeol began his fast Thursday as 3pm, before sunset. He would have considered to have fasted one day. Now let's assume that Schmeol continuted his fast until Saturday 8pm, after sunset. He would be credited with fasting Thursday, Friday and Saturday, even though he broke his fast Saturday. Now, there are actual examples of this in the history of the kings of Israel, where there are Kings who have served less than a full year, yet the chronicles have him reigning for a year.
If Jesus died on Thursday afternoon and was raised on Sunday (any time after sunset on the Sabbath), then he would be credited with four days in the grave: Thursday (before sunset), Friday (sunset Thursday to sunset Friday), Saturday (sunset Friday to sunset Saturday) and Sunday (anytime after Sunset Saturday). If he died Thursday afternoon and was raised before sunset on Saturday (the Sabbath), then he would have been in the grave 3 days: Thursday (until sunset), Friday (sunset Thursday to sunset Friday) and Saturday (sunset Friday to sunset Saturday). This, however, leaves us with the problem of the grave being empty while it was still dark in the morning, before sunrise. Which means that if 'the first of the Sabbath' means the early morning of the Sabbath, then the Jewish women were breaking the Sabbath by preparing his body that morning, but we see that the reason they didn't do it the day before was because the Sabbath was approaching. So, now we are left with Jesus dying on the cross Friday afternoon and being raised on Sunday: Friday (until sunset), Saturday (sunset Friday to sunset Saturday) and Sunday (any time after sunset on the Sabbath day).
While the Greek of Matthew uses the word sabbaton, it does not necessarily refer to 'the Sabbath.' As we see from Matthew 27:1, it seems awkward to say, "Now after the Sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first [day] of the Sabbath, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary came to look at the grave." This phrase, 'first day of the week' is only used once outside of the Gospel accounts in Acts 20:7, and is used in the same manner as the Gospels. If 'first of the week' means the first (hours) of the Sabbath, then the women were going to the grave in the early morning hours of the Sabbath while it was still dark. This does not actually conflict with Marks account 'when the sun had risen.' The ladies left while it was still dark, but by the time they had arrived at the tomb, the sun was up and the stone rolled away. Either way, if this was the early morning hours of the Sabbath, they were violating the Sabbath Law of doing no work on the Sabbath, and properly preparing a body for burial was definitely work. Besides which, the reason they asked for his body from Pilot was that they need to perform a perfunctory preparation of his body before the Sabbath day that they kept. "Then the returned and prepared spices and perfumes. And on the Sabbath they rested according to the commandment." (Luke 23:56) Even if is was the Sabbath celebration of Passover and Unleavened Bread and not the weekly Sabbath, the command to do no work still applies (Lev. 23:5-8) and they obeyed the commandment of the Sabbath. So the 'first of the week/sabbaton' cannot mean the early morning hours of the Sabbath. Besides, John 19:31 tells us is was a high holy Sabbath, meaning it was not only a weekly Sabbath, but a festival Sabbath as well. There is also the Luke 18:9-18, the parable of the Pharisee and the Publican (tax collector) where the Pharisee boasts "I fast twice a week." I doubt that means that he fasts twice on the Sabbath, perhaps between breakfast and lunch, and then between lunch and supper? It's the same Greek word σάββατον [sabbaton]. No, It must be the first of the week, it's the only translation that actually agrees with the text.
Jesus was crucified on Friday afternoon, was taken down given a perfunctory preparation and placed in the tomb before the High Holy Sabbath came upon them (sunset that same day). Then, the morning after observing the Sabbath, special as it was (possibly the Sabbath of Unleavened Bread), on the first day of the week (Sunday) the women went to the tomb properly prepare Jesus body according to the Jewish custom. He was in the tomb 3 Jewish day, though not 72 hours.
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Matthew, the Greek language has a word for week...I've already researched this out...And besides, the not working on the Sabbath is meant to imply normal vocation, the women did not go around embalming bodies as their normal vocation...And as Yeshua was alive He demonstarated this when He healed a man on the Sabbath...Yeshua corrected a lot of misinformation and additives from the Pharasees...
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