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Old 08-31-2013, 11:11 PM
 
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How did God find out what we will do?
IMHO, God (or that what people call God) takes into account and provides for every eventuality of what we can do. But we have our free will to pick our way. For example, either we can smoke cigarettes and put our health at risk or we won't smoke them and be healthy. It is our choice of our free will of what we will do. Besides, God didn't buy us these cigarettes and didn't ask us to do it.
I just want to say that we can form our life ourselves by our free will.

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Did he look down the corridors of time to figure it out?
Actually, he can do it. Knowing human nature, a man habits, his tendency and inclinations, it's easy to foresee how a man would act if his consciousness and mindset have not changed.

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And since God doesn't have the ability to choose evil...
First of all, the evil is a very complicated philosophic concept. Evil exists in human understanding only. But there is no evil in the universe. If evil exists in the cosmos created by God then He is not that perfect himself. Lol.
The only evil is our narrow minding, ignorance and self-importance.

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do we have more liberty than him?
No, we don't.
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Old 08-31-2013, 11:21 PM
 
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IMHO, God (or that what people call God) takes into account and provides for every eventuality of what we can do. But we have our free will to pick our way. For example, either we can smoke cigarettes and put our health at risk or we won't smoke them and be healthy. It is our choice of our free will of what we will do. Besides, God didn't buy us these cigarettes and didn't ask us to do it.
I just want to say that we can form our life ourselves by our free will.


Actually, he can do it. Knowing human nature, a man habits, his tendency and inclinations, it's easy to foresee how a man would act if his consciousness and mindset have not changed.


First of all, the evil is a very complicated philosophic concept. Evil exists in human understanding only. But there is no evil in the universe. If evil exists in the cosmos created by God then He is not that perfect himself. Lol.
The only evil is our narrow minding, ignorance and self-importance.


No, we don't.
So you are saying that there was a time that God didnt know what we would do? He had to look and see?

And do you believe God can sin?
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Old 08-31-2013, 11:46 PM
 
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So you are saying that there was a time that God didnt know what we would do? He had to look and see?
And do you believe God can sin?
First of all, can you please tell me what is God in your understanding?
I am asking that because we can imply some different things under this word.
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Old 09-01-2013, 12:00 AM
 
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First of all, can you please tell me what is God in your understanding?
I am asking that because we can imply some different things under this word.
Something tells me we are not on the same page. God is God....the sovereign Creator of the universe.
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Old 09-01-2013, 12:11 AM
 
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God is God....the sovereign Creator of the universe.
Is it some perfect man? Is it a person?
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Old 09-01-2013, 01:00 AM
 
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I believe in destiny. God had pre-destined mankind unto salvation. Adam's race, or the human race (if you prefer) is one unit. By one all were made sinners, and by one Jesus Christ all will be made righteous. It's hidden in plain sight in the book of Romans.
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Old 09-01-2013, 01:01 AM
 
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Is it some perfect man? Is it a person?
Man? No. 3 persons, 1 God.
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Old 09-01-2013, 01:02 AM
 
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How did God find out what we will do? Did he look down the corridors of time to figure it out?

And since God doesn't have the ability to choose evil....do we have more liberty than him?
You're starting to sound slightly like either a Calvinist or a Universalist. Guess which one is right?

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Old 09-01-2013, 01:05 AM
 
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You're starting to sound slightly like either a Calvinist or a Universalist. Guess which one is right?

Both are correct in that God is sovereign and can do with his creation what he wants. But I am not a universalist.
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Old 09-01-2013, 01:06 AM
 
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And Hell is just a Christian perversion of Hel
A Pagan spiritual realm and deity.
Yep. I agree with you on that point.
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