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Old 11-23-2013, 01:15 PM
 
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oh it most certainly does...since it is up to the individual to decide to believe, according to the christian tradition...

thusly the individual and the savior are equally important to ones own salvation...
Some believe as you stated, not all.
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Old 11-24-2013, 10:32 AM
 
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By DENYING MY FLESH daily in a sacrifice holy unto the Lord. By putting others interests and well being before MY SELFISH DESIRES, by keeping my body in check by not committing fornication(sleeping around), by not cheating on my spouse which is adultery, but not lying to get my way in life, by not stealing to meet my needs.. get the picture? We must rid our selves of SELF SURVIVAL like the beast have instilled in them and think for the Best of all involved according to GOD'S WILL, meaning what His Word says is right for His Will is to know and do His Word. We are to allow the Word of God and the Spirit to operate(work) within us to cut and burn away those animal lusts our flesh loves so much but is clearly to our demise.
I get the picture where you are coming from........keeping your old nature in order by denying it. To be spiritually minded which is the way of transformation is not denying the flesh, because the spiritually minded man does not consider is flesh to deny it, and to give it any form of attention is the reason we are defeated by it. The spiritually minded man's consideration is.........whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things

If our old nature is manifesting, it's because we have been giving it our attention, we considered it.
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Old 11-24-2013, 10:44 AM
 
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By DENYING MY FLESH daily in a sacrifice holy unto the Lord. By putting others interests and well being before MY SELFISH DESIRES, by keeping my body in check by not committing fornication(sleeping around), by not cheating on my spouse which is adultery, but not lying to get my way in life, by not stealing to meet my needs.. get the picture? We must rid our selves of SELF SURVIVAL like the beast have instilled in them and think for the Best of all involved according to GOD'S WILL, meaning what His Word says is right for His Will is to know and do His Word. We are to allow the Word of God and the Spirit to operate(work) within us to cut and burn away those animal lusts our flesh loves so much but is clearly to our demise.
Serious question: Do you deny yourself fried foods and skip the pie a la mode so your selfish desires won't lead you to the sin of gluttony? Or is all about sex and animal lust?

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Old 11-24-2013, 07:58 PM
 
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Serious question: Do you deny yourself fried foods and skip the pie a la mode so your selfish desires won't lead you to the sin of gluttony? Or is all about sex and animal lust?
You don't want to make it too difficult for him/her, Dew! After all . . . there is also being too lazy (sloth) and other weaknesses that plague us all.
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