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Thus, certain people like Father Leonard Feeney and some traditionalists believe their understanding of the original doctrine to be correct and that, if the Church were now to teach that the salvation of people outside formal membership in the Church is possible, it would contradict its earlier teaching, and would violate the doctrine of the Church's infallibility. Father Leonard Edward Feeney (Lynn, Massachusetts February 18, 1897 – Ayer, Massachusetts January 30, 1978 )[1] was a U.S. Jesuit priest who articulated and defended a strict interpretation of the Roman Catholic doctrine, extra Ecclesiam nulla salus ("outside the Church there is no salvation"), arguing that baptism of blood and baptism of desire are unavailing and that therefore no non-Catholics will be saved. Fighting against what he perceived to be the liberalization of Catholic doctrine, he came under ecclesiastical censure and has been described as Boston's homegrown version of Father Charles Coughlin on account of his alleged antisemitism. Feeney had a storied life, first as a well-known Roman Catholic writer; he later fell from favour with the Roman Catholic Church after he insisted that only Roman Catholics baptized with water can go to heaven and that everyone else will be damned.
The young Robert Kennedy attended a meeting of students during his Harvard days at which he stood up and challenged Feeney, later storming out, following the priest's assertion that there was no salvation outside the Catholic faith.
Many believe that the Catholic church tells people that only Catholics are saved. And that is not true.
Likewise, I have also heard Protestants say that Catholics are not saved and that is not true either.
This may be true. I am not aware of a biblical doctrine about the Catholics at all. And Salvation is through Christ alone. But you said my minister had lied to me and I am asking what this lie is you claiming he told me.
Wow. That shows a TOTAL lack of respect for Catholics and their beliefs.
You think Jesus is OK with you dissing an entire religion?
So much for Christian humbleness. The arrogance of that statement is stunning.
Just a fact. The view of any group or religion is of no consequence. None are involved in the process of Salvation. Jesus alone has accomplished all that is needed. I mentioned the one group because that was the topic of the thread.
The fact that we Catholics preserved Christianity for him means nothing.
Catholics did not preserve Christianity. They tried to kill them all and failed. Don't try an lie to me. And they are not my savior. Only Jesus Christ is savior.
EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS(No Salvation Outside the Church)
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St. Augustine (354-430), Bishop and Doctor of the Church: "No man can find salvation except in the Catholic Church. Outside the Catholic Church one can have everything except salvation. One can have honor, one can have sacraments, one can sing alleluia, one can answer amen, one can have faith in the Name of the Father and the Son and of the Holy Ghost, and preach it too, but never can one find salvation except in the Catholic Church."
St. Fulgentius (468-533), Bishop: "Most firmly hold and never doubt that not only pagans, but also Jews, all heretics, and all schismatics who finish this life outside of the Catholic Church, will go into eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels."
Pope St. Gregory the Great (590-604): "The holy universal Church teaches that it is not possible to worship God truly except in Her and asserts that all who are outside of Her will not be saved."
St. Francis of Assisi (1182-1226): "All who have not believed that Jesus Christ was really the Son of God are doomed. Also, all who see the Sacrament of the Body of Christ and do not believe it is really the most holy Body and Blood of the Lord . . . these also are doomed!"
St. Thomas Aquinas (1226-1274), the Angelic Doctor: There is no entering into salvation outside the Catholic Church, just as in the time of the Flood there was not salvation outside the Ark, which denotes the Church."
St. Louis Marie de Montfort (1673-1716): "There is no salvation outside the Catholic Church. Anyone who resists this truth perishes."
St. Robert Bellarmine (1542-1621), Bishop and Doctor of the Church: "Outside the Church there is no salvation...therefore in the symbol (Apostles Creed) we join together the Church with the remission of sins: 'I believe in the Holy Catholic Church, the communion of saints, the forgiveness of sins"...For this reason the Church is compared to the Ark of Noah, because just as during the deluge, everyone perished who was not in the ark, so now those perish who are not in the Church."
St. Alphonsus Maria de Liguori (1696-1787), Bishop and Doctor of the Church: "All the misfortunes of unbelievers spring from too great an attachment to the things of life. This sickness of heart weakens and darkens the understanding, and leads to eternal ruin. If they would try to heal their hearts by purging them of their vices, they would soon receive light, which would show them the necessity of joining the Catholic Church, where alone is salvation. We should constantly thank the Lord for having granted us the gift of the true Faith, by associating us with the children of the Holy Catholic Church ... How many are the infidels, heretics, and schismatics who do not enjoy the happiness of the true Faith! Earth is full of them and they are all lost!"
Pope Pius XII (1939-1958): Some say they are not bound by the doctrine which teaches that the Mystical Body of Christ and the Roman Catholic Church are one and the same thing. Some reduce to a meaningless formula the necessity of belonging to the true Church in order to gain eternal salvation. Others finally belittle the reasonable character of the credibility of Christian Faith. These and like ERRORS, it is clear, have crept in among certain of our sons who are deceived by imprudent zeal for souls or by false science." https://www.olrl.org/doctrine/eens2.shtml
I did not "diss" an entire religion. I simply stated a fact that is true for all religions. Unless they think they control who receives salvation, which the OP is trying to prove they do not, why would that fact be offensive? Since Jesus loves the truth I suppose Jesus loves what I said.
1) Because not everyone is a fundamentalist and what YOU consider "facts" may or may not hold true for Catholics.
2) Oh, yes indeed.
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