What will happen to me if I'm not a Christian (mystic, Kingdom)
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You present a self-centered view of two possibilities:
1) There is no deity
2) There is a deity, and of all the myriad versions of deities ever claimed by humans it 'just happens' ... ... to be the one to which you hold.
Of course, this is nonsense. You could be wrong. It could well be that there is a deity who couldn't care less about those who do not believe in any deity but who is violently upset at those who believe in another deity - in which case it is you, not anyone who doesn't believe in God, who is taking the risk.
Then there's the fact that normal people can't simply turn belief on and off.
Frankly, the myriad problems with this claim are so basic and obvious that it's a wonder anyone ever bothers to try and foist it on anyone else.
Camps shakes is head in disbelief. In other words you haven't got a single scripture, and you like all bibleans completely ignore that by your own standards there as got to be something wrong with that. I mean what does it matter if you do have a scripture and i say it doesn't mean that, at the very least you have done your part. Accept it, what you believe is not grounded in the scripture, it is a fear based doctrine that like all bibleans' you are not willing let go of.
No I mean what I said. If one reads the post on this forum they know you have been shown the scriptures over and over and you just deny what they say. It's your game as is this childish atempt to bait me into your game. You have played it too many times for an adult with his eyes open to fall for it. Sorry, it's not going to work on me. Better luck with someone else.
Matthew 25:31-46
31 “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne. 32 All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.
34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’
37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’
40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’
41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’
44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’
45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’
46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.â€
This is GREAT! Salvation by works alone! Forget faith and magic and how you spend your Sunday mornings, just be a good person and you are in! Thanks for posting.
This is GREAT! Salvation by works alone! Forget faith and magic and how you spend your Sunday mornings, just be a good person and you are in! Thanks for posting.
Wouldn't that be great?
Unfortunately, there are a lot more verses that I did not post (yet) that must also be considered. But that passage did answer one very specific concern about whether people suffer for eternity based upon what they do in this life.
No I mean what I said. If one reads the post on this forum they know you have been shown the scriptures over and over and you just deny what they say. It's your game as is this childish atempt to bait me into your game. You have played it too many times for an adult with his eyes open to fall for it. Sorry, it's not going to work on me. Better luck with someone else.
You haven't got a a scripture to justify the comment you made. If you had you would post it. Whenever any of you bibleans post anything remotely close to our salvation being salvation from eternal hell, i will challenge them to provide the scriptures, it is nothing to do with baiting or being childish( your poor excuse to deflect the fact, for not being able back up what you believe with scripture). The only scripture that is normally offered up, is "saved from his wrath".
Matthew 25:31-46
31 “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne. 32 All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.
34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’
37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’
40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’
41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’
44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’
45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’
46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”
It is amazing how you hell fire believers hold onto the mistranslation of this scripture, even though many more qualified than myself have shown how it is mistranslated.
Thank God that i know the unconditional forgiveness of God, because i could never live with myself having believed someone could suffer what you boys(and girls) believe is punishment forever and ever at the hands of God, knowing such a thought never entered the mind of most of mankind.
It is amazing how you hell fire believers hold onto the mistranslation of this scripture, even though many more qualified than myself have shown how it is mistranslated.
Thank God that i know the unconditional forgiveness of God, because i could never live with myself having believed someone could suffer what you boys(and girls) believe is punishment forever and ever at the hands of God, knowing such a thought never entered the mind of most of mankind.
What translation of the Bible do you prefer and why?
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