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Majority of Christians have no clue of the High Holy Days in The Holy Bible, but yet they celebrate every single one of the Heathenistic traditional days but play it down as "goofy traditions that mean nothing"...but if they mean nothing, why do "christians" spend so much money preparing for these pagan days? but not one penny is spent towards the Holy Days that Yeshua kept and told us to keep.
I pointed out already how most Christians don't keep the Sabbath.. but in addition to not keeping the Sabbath, the majority of Christians have no clue about The Feast of Purim, The Feast of Tabernacles, The Feast of First Fruits, etc..
Can any "Christian" in here explain this gross lack of understanding the difference between what is a "Holy Day" and what is not? When the Holy Days are to be observed? and why the traditions of Heathen "holidays" are not to be practiced, period?
"Christians"? Pagans? Let's talk about it.
Last edited by june 7th; 07-16-2014 at 09:07 AM..
Reason: Per the Sticky at top of forum.
Majority of Christians have no clue of the High Holy Days in The Holy Bible, but yet they celebrate every single one of the Heathenistic traditional days but play it down as "goofy traditions that mean nothing"...but if they mean nothing, why do "christians" spend so much money preparing for these pagan days? but not one penny is spent towards the Holy Days that Yeshua kept and told us to keep.
I pointed out already how most Christians don't keep the Sabbath.. but in addition to not keeping the Sabbath, the majority of Christians have no clue about The Feast of Purim, The Feast of Tabernacles, The Feast of First Fruits, etc..
Can any "Christian" in here explain this gross lack of understanding the difference between what is a "Holy Day" and what is not? When the Holy Days are to be observed? and why the traditions of Heathen "holidays" are not to be practiced, period?
"Christians"? Pagans? Let's talk about it.
The Church is not Israel and does not and does not have to keep the Sabbath and the other holy days that Israel kept. God has a different program for the Church than for Israel.
Colossians 2:16Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day-- 17]things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ.
Last edited by Michael Way; 07-16-2014 at 10:07 AM..
Reason: I deleted part of my post which dealt with the part of the OP's post which was deleted.
We're free in Christ Jesus didn't keep the Sabbath either, he fulfilled it. The OT traditions were for the Jews so that they could be a witness to the real God to the pagan nations around them. The pagans would see their reverence and celebration and it would convict them.
We have the Holy Spirit now, a personal relationship with Christ so each one of us individually is a witness to those around us. If we are representing Jesus to the best of our ability, the Holy Spirit will convict others in our presence.
As long as we're not worshipping a Christmas tree, fire works, or the Easter bunny, it's not paganism.
I know the OP won't listen to this post, but this is for anyone who is lurking who he might be confusing.
Good, daylux. Actually there are NO "Christian holidays" if you mean one biblically mandated, so all holidays are cultural. Whether and how a local meeting of the church may participate or not is only an indication of how they integrate the culture into their world view. Personally, I think at least passing nods to such traditions is not without merit, if only as a basis for comments on ho we should be living in society as followers of Jesus.
Majority of Christians have no clue of the High Holy Days in The Holy Bible, but yet they celebrate every single one of the Heathenistic traditional days but play it down as "goofy traditions that mean nothing"...but if they mean nothing, why do "christians" spend so much money preparing for these pagan days? but not one penny is spent towards the Holy Days that Yeshua kept and told us to keep.
I pointed out already how most Christians don't keep the Sabbath.. but in addition to not keeping the Sabbath, the majority of Christians have no clue about The Feast of Purim, The Feast of Tabernacles, The Feast of First Fruits, etc..
Can any "Christian" in here explain this gross lack of understanding the difference between what is a "Holy Day" and what is not? When the Holy Days are to be observed? and why the traditions of Heathen "holidays" are not to be practiced, period?
"Christians"? Pagans? Let's talk about it.
Many Christians are completely unaware because they have been pretty much brought to up think anything in the OT is irrelevant, not for them and for the Jews only.
While you have a point that most Christians will have every excuse in the book not to observe any of the 7 holy days and then turn right around and spend $$$ on man made holidays, one cant really observe the 7 holy days per biblical requirement either. Many of those days require burnt offering, require you to some to Jerusalem and sacrifices too.
I think all Christian should understand and study the feast days to see Gods plan of Salvation, rather than always saying that is for the Jews only even though God said they are HIS feast days and not the Jews and saying 66% of the bible isnt needed for them.
We're free in Christ Jesus didn't keep the Sabbath either, he fulfilled it. The OT traditions were for the Jews so that they could be a witness to the real God to the pagan nations around them. The pagans would see their reverence and celebration and it would convict them.
We have the Holy Spirit now, a personal relationship with Christ so each one of us individually is a witness to those around us. If we are representing Jesus to the best of our ability, the Holy Spirit will convict others in our presence.
As long as we're not worshipping a Christmas tree, fire works, or the Easter bunny, it's not paganism.
I know the OP won't listen to this post, but this is for anyone who is lurking who he might be confusing.
You're confused. Yeshua "fulfilled" the Sabbath BY keeping it and observing it.
In your logic, you are FREE to sin and all you need to do is to say "Jesus wept" and you're good.
that's the typical Christian thought process. deny the commandments and justify it of your own free will.
FYI- the mere fact that you erect a Christmas tree.... and shoot off fireworks...and Go to church on Easter sunday is PROOF that you subliminally practice a Pagan life constructed by the Roman Heathens of old for centuries.. .
Not once recognizing the Original Biblical Holy Days that we're to truly celebrate. and you didn't post any that you observe either...more proof.
Majority of Christians don't even know that there are Biblical Holy Days in the Bible that we are to follow.
I know you won't respond to this post but the truth is not fiction.
Many Christians are completely unaware because they have been pretty much brought to up think anything in the OT is irrelevant, not for them and for the Jews only.
While you have a point that most Christians will have every excuse in the book not to observe any of the 7 holy days and then turn right around and spend $$$ on man made holidays, one cant really observe the 7 holy days per biblical requirement either. Many of those days require burnt offering, require you to some to Jerusalem and sacrifices too.
This is why Yeshua came. to present the new covenant of "Burnt offerings". HE was the offering and sacrifice now, so there is no need to kill a goat or lamb anymore.
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I think all Christian should understand and study the feast days to see Gods plan of Salvation, rather than always saying that is for the Jews only even though God said they are HIS feast days and not the Jews and saying 66% of the bible isnt needed for them.
This is the Christian cop-out. throw their responsibility on others, when it wholly applies to them. which is why the term "Christian" is an oxymoron. they are NOT Christians, they are PAGANS. period.
The Church is not Israel and does not and does not have to keep the Sabbath and the other holy days that Israel kept. God has a different program for the Church than for Israel.
Colossians 2:16Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day-- 17]things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ.
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Then you should burn your Bible because you don't need it anymore since it doesn't apply to you and you use your own carnal thoughts to justify your sins and disobedience.
On the contrary. The New Testament epistles are letters to the church and contain the doctrines and principles which apply to the dispensation of the Church. As well, the Old Testament is also valuable. It not only tells us of our origins, and the history of God's dealings with Israel and the nations, but you cannot truly understand the New Testament apart from the Old Testament. But the Church is not under the Mosaic Law and the holy days which were given to Israel do not apply to the Church.
And you are not to judge (read condemn) anyone regarding the Sabbath and other holy days as Paul stated in Colossians 2:16. It's none of your business.
Furthermore, who are you to accuse others of attempting to justify their sins?
On the contrary. The New Testament epistles are letters to the church and contain the doctrines and principles which apply to the dispensation of the Church. As well, the Old Testament is also valuable. It not only tells us of our origins, and the history of God's dealings with Israel and the nations, but you cannot truly understand the New Testament apart from the Old Testament. But the Church is not under the Mosaic Law and the holy days which were given to Israel do not apply to the Church.
And you are not to judge (read condemn) anyone regarding the Sabbath and other holy days as Paul stated in Colossians 2:16. It's none of your business.
Furthermore, who are you to accuse others of attempting to justify their sins?
On the contrary, the OT is just as valid as the NT or it wouldn't be included. the Protestants would've taken all of it out as well.
Yeshua spoke and taught from the OT, but bumper sticker christians don't get that.
On the contrary. The New Testament epistles are letters to the church and contain the doctrines and principles which apply to the dispensation of the Church. As well, the Old Testament is also valuable. It not only tells us of our origins, and the history of God's dealings with Israel and the nations, but you cannot truly understand the New Testament apart from the Old Testament. But the Church is not under the Mosaic Law and the holy days which were given to Israel do not apply to the Church.
And you are not to judge (read condemn) anyone regarding the Sabbath and other holy days as Paul stated in Colossians 2:16. It's none of your business.
Furthermore, who are you to accuse others of attempting to justify their sins?
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Originally Posted by OneFormula
On the contrary, the OT is just as valid as the NT or it wouldn't be included. the Protestants would've taken all of it out as well.
Yeshua spoke and taught from the OT, but bumper sticker christians don't get that.
I did not say that the Old Testament is invalid. I said that the Mosaic Law and the holy days which were given to Israel do not apply to the church. Again, God's program for Israel is different than God's program for the Church. We live in the dispensation of the Church, not in the age of Israel. And the Church is not Israel. Not everything in the Bible pertains to everyone.
The humanity of Jesus was born, lived, died, and was resurrected during the age of Israel. The dispensation of the Church had not yet started.
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Jesus didn't keep the Sabbath either, he fulfilled it. The OT traditions were for the Jews so that they could be a witness to the real God to the pagan nations around them. The pagans would see their reverence and celebration and it would convict them. 
