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Old 11-06-2014, 11:53 AM
 
Location: South Africa
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I interact with a lot of black people, and I don't know one black person under the age of 35 that thinks the way you do. It must be the people you hang out with.
The difference is you deal with American blacks. Your Watts and St Louis are not something to aspire to. SA is a very Christian country. white and black. just different churches. Neither white nor black wants this liberal PC culture coming from the west. What is so difficult to understand about that? Why must the world adopt the liberal PC American model. That western model has been resisted since the Boer war.

 
Old 11-06-2014, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Denver, Colorado U.S.A.
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I am well educated with a post grad degree. All you say is that you don't like the message. As if I must care? The fact is gays are just not welcome in Christian society. so what are you doing in one?
No, you mean they're not welcome in your particular society. Religion is your crutch! Gay people are quite welcome in my Christian church, and in the community where I live. The way gay people are demonized in much of Africa is just sickening.
 
Old 11-06-2014, 11:59 AM
 
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The difference is you deal with American blacks. Your Watts and St Louis are not something to aspire to. SA is a very Christian country. white and black. just different churches. Neither white nor black wants this liberal PC culture coming from the west. What is so difficult to understand about that? Why must the world adopt the liberal PC American model. That western model has been resisted since the Boer war.
I live in the NY city area. The black people I know are all educated and have careers.
 
Old 11-06-2014, 12:00 PM
 
Location: South Africa
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No, you mean they're not welcome in your particular society. Religion is your crutch! Gay people are quite welcome in my Christian church, and in the community where I live. The way gay people are demonized in much of Africa is just sickening.
Why are they demonised? because it is against black culture, like it is against traditional Christian muslim and jewish ones, and because we have not been infected with the PC disease the way America and Europe have been. So white and black still know it is wrong. We are far more resistant to that PC cancer. We haven't been bombarded by Hollywood night and day.
 
Old 11-06-2014, 12:04 PM
 
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Why are they demonised? because it is against black culture, like it is against traditional Christian muslim and jewish ones, and because we have not been infected with the PC disease the way America and Europe have been. So white and black still know it is wrong. We are far more resistant to that PC cancer. We haven't been bombarded by Hollywood night and day.
Gay people are demonized because people like you demonize them - and then you teach your children to demonize them. You were taught to hate, and now you're teaching others to follow in your footsteps.

Not much different than racism.
 
Old 11-06-2014, 12:08 PM
 
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I am not condemning individuals and you know it.
Yes you are. You are condemning hundreds of millions of individual people who you apparently can't even see as human beings.
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God absolutely condemns the abominable sin of homosexuality which requires by God's law that both parties be put to death to lose their physical life and if it is not repented of during the judgment they will die the second death.
You want hundreds of millions of 21st century gay and lesbian individual people around the world to be put to death? All because of a sentence written several thousand years ago by ignorant barbaric men who ritually sacrificed animals on altars? If that's not blind hatred, I don't know what is.
 
Old 11-06-2014, 12:08 PM
 
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Why are they demonised? because it is against black culture, like it is against traditional Christian muslim and jewish ones, and because we have not been infected with the PC disease the way America and Europe have been. So white and black still know it is wrong. We are far more resistant to that PC cancer. We haven't been bombarded by Hollywood night and day.
Oh yes, that PC cancer. That is so much worse than something like corrective rape which is a common occurrence in your part of the world.

For anyone not familiar with the term: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrective_rape



I guess this is what a traditional Christian culture that has not been infected with the PC diseases you are so afraid of looks like? :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_...n_South_Africa

The rate of sexual violence in South Africa is among the highest in the world. Sexual violence is the use of force or manipulation to get someone to engage in unwanted sexual activity without his or her consent.[1] An estimated of 500,000 rape cases take place in the country, every year.[2]


South Africa has some of the highest incidences of child and infant rape in the world.[22] In 2001, it was reported by the South African Police Service that children are the victims of 41 percent of all rapes reported in the country.[23]

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Old 11-06-2014, 12:20 PM
 
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You want hundreds of millions of 21st century gay and lesbian individual people around the world to be put to death? All because of a sentence written several thousand years ago by ignorant barbaric men who ritually sacrificed animals on altars? If that's not blind hatred, I don't know what is.
Hatred?

God requires death for homosexuals and condemns them to an eternity burning in hell. God is also loving. Doesn't that mean that killing or condemning a homosexual is an act of love?
 
Old 11-06-2014, 12:25 PM
 
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Then why does God talk about the other nations doing these abominations if it was just a ritual purity law only for Hebrews?
Because the purpose of those laws was to stop the Israelites from being like the Egyptians and Canaanites since those issues were heavily involved in pagan worship, hence the reference to Molech. That's also why tattoos, mixed clothing, certain colors, etc. were prohibited.

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My opinion is shared by many great men of God. Stop trying to personalize.
Your opinion is also rejected by many great men of God. Stop assuming you're infallible. The Bible offers no solution for gay people. I don't think God would put gays in an impossible situation for no reason.
 
Old 11-06-2014, 12:27 PM
 
Location: The #1 sunshine state, Arizona.
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Hatred?

God requires death for homosexuals and condemns them to an eternity burning in hell. God is also loving. Doesn't that mean that killing or condemning a homosexual is an act of love?
When you follow an angry god, expect violence to ensue. Look at all the holy wars, and you'll see religion divides people just like the "preachers" in this forum.
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